PRT220 – Lemonade and Massages

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  • Wendy Elmhorst

    This just might be my favorite episode so far! I could relate to so much of what was said and I took away so many good snippits!

    I am not quite an empty nester yet…my youngest just started her Senior year…but I have two who have left the nest. I totally agree that it is very hard when the first one leaves! My two oldest moved out in the same year! Talk about traumatic! I, too, had homeschooled my three girls and our house was always a crazy, busy place. It also was the hangout for many of their friends and we regularly had an extra or two for dinner. All of the sudden our home went from the hub of all activity to extremely empty and quiet! No dance lessons, 4H meetings, or music practices to attend…it was just me and my youngest during the day and we didn’t know what to do with eachother!

    Two years later I’m still adjusting! Now my youngest is approaching that age and I was starting to panic…your panel really helped me get my perspective and realize that although things are changing…my life (and my favorite hobby) is not ending! My scrapping has changed already since the two older girls moved out and I still haven’t found my new groove. I have been focusing on scrapping their baby years right now but really want to do some more pages on our lives now. I LOVE the idea of having them text a picture on the same day…will be doing that one for sure! I am also going to spend more time reflecting on my daughters Senior year…something I wish I had done with the others. As a stay-at-home homeschooling mom this is a time I have always feared…thank you panel for putting it all into perspective!

    Thank you again, Paperclipping for a show that was not only enjoyable…but very relevant and inspiring!

  • Awesome! I love how the show almost always extends beyond scrapbooking, and this show, in particular, did that.

  • So happy to hear Sue & Marcia on the show! Marcia’s Lemonade and Massages layout is over in the Get It Scrapped gallery so I was so excited to know the story behind the title of the show when I saw it pop up in my podcast feed.
    Fun to hear Kelly talk about the Dragon Boat Races & Ybor City. We go watch the dragon boat races over in Tampa sometimes. Hey Kelly – do you ever get over to Whim So Doodle in downtown St. Pete?

  • Karen Cross

    A very timely episode: the beginning of the school year. My only child is a junior in college this year and when he went as a freshman I have to say I was a hot mess. Actually his whole senior year of high school was hard; I cried almost every time I drove to his school. I cried after the last back-to-school night, I didn’t remember it was the last parent-teacher conferences or I’d have cried all over the teachers. I never cried around him, though he was so wrapped up in the college application process that I don’t think he’d have noticed. I tried to do ProjectLife that year and I just couldn’t bring myself to put it together. I saved everything and I was glad to hear on the episode that it might be easier someday to put everything in an album.

    He did great at college and I was thrilled for him. After all he was doing everything we raised him to do. I was just sad for me. I love all the little kid stuff and I had to grieve that that was really over. I have to say I grieved hard that first year. It’s a blur. What finally pulled me out of it was going on a trip to Italy with 2 of my girlfriends that next summer. I had traveled a lot with one of them before having my son and somehow it brought me back to my old self. And I scrapbooked again!

    When he went to college that second year, which was last year, I planned a major kitchen remodel. It worked, I didn’t have time to miss him.
    This past summer he was only home for a few weeks (stinkin kid got a research job in another state) but I made the most of every minute. And he seemed to really enjoy hanging out with us versus that high school phase of don’t be seen with the parents. When we dropped him back at college 2 weeks ago I was fine. Whew. Now I’m looking forward to getting to the perspective of your guests on this episode. And as for missing the little kid stuff I have 2 little nephews who came for a week visit each by themselves this summer and we did all that fun stuff and I treasured every minute. Thank you for doing this episode. It meant a lot and I wanted you to have my comment so I registered.
    PS – When it’s my turn to drive on road trips I listen to PRT. My husband laughs along and we often stop the podcast and talk about whatever you’re discussing. When he drives we listen to a husband and wife who podcast about sci-fi books. :)

  • I’m so glad you registered to leave comments. I enjoyed reading your own story just as much as I enjoyed the guests’ stories. It’s good to hear how a trip (or a remodel!) seem to be a reliable fix for empty nest blues.

  • djbookkeeper

    I am also a proud member of the Empty Nesters! Great show! I enjoy the quiet evenings , now, and not cooking! And, I am scrapping a lot more without all the driving to practices and events that we got to do with high schoolers. I seem to be scrapping more about myself and I’m enjoying doing comparison pages – me on a pony when I was 2 and my son on a horse when he was 2. Or, me holding a fish when I was little and my daughter refusing to hold a fish. Like the guests said, things change but it’s a good change. Embrace it!

  • Jennifer Larson

    When I saw the title of the episode, I waited with bated breath to find out what it meant in an episode about empty nesters–and what a payoff! The story made me actually LOL when I was walking the dog (and I know that must have made me look like a fool, but I don’t care–there can never be enough laughter in the world). Living in Minnesota myself, I now look forward to door-to-door lemonade and massage sales, coolers and dirty hands and all.

    This was such a great episode, and not just for empty nesters. It reminded me of all the transitions in our lives, and how sometimes perspective makes us look on our experience in different ways. This episode did a great job of “selling” scrapbooking and its value, from the way it gives us a venue to reflect on those transitions to the way it connects and grounds people to their identities and to the lives of the ones they love. Thank you for being such great ambassadors for such a wonderful hobby.

  • Marcia Fortunato

    I love your solutions to dealing with your empty nest – wish I’d thought of them! I, too, use PRT to keep me alert on road trips. It’s all that laughter!

  • Glad to hear that others enjoyed this episode as much as I did! Thank you!

  • Leslie McLaughlin

    I just finished listening and I have to agree – a great show! I am an empty nester or rather we call ourselves open-nesters soon to transition to empty nesters. We have 3 kids 29,27 and 24. At various and different times they all came home to live for as little as 6 months to as much as a year after college and grad school. One has actually come home twice – thus the open-nester. We have never said no and we are proud of all three kids and their transition to adulthood!

    Now the middle one is about to leave again and I think we will finally be empty nesters. I am so enjoying looking back over my kids lives and doing the comparison scrapbook pages of them then and now. My daughter was a huge dancer like yours Noell but when she went to college she gave it up completely. She has never regretted it and has moved on to other things in her life. I didn’t scrapbook much when my kids were home -it was new to me and I was so busy with them. Now I am more confident in my scrapbooking and I can tell the story of her dancing from a more objective perspective. I know it was important in her life but not the end all be all that we might have thought it was at the time. But I can journal about all the great life skills she learned from it!

    But I have 3 kids worth of photos that I need to organize and scrapbook. I will not be doing project life with them as we didn’t take nearly the number of photos that parents do these days. No iphone when they were little! But rather putting together albums for each of them of their school days and what we did photograph.

    I am enjoying this part of my life – where my husband and I are each other’s priority – with traveling and fun activities – I am scrapbooking much more about us – also just bought the “romantic scrapbooking class” – trying to figure out how to remember the details from when we met and do those types of pages.

    I have a very long list of scrapbook pages to do!!! Never at a loss for an idea!

    Thanks Noell for a wonderful episode and to the guests – I feel better knowing there are more women out there my age doing this!! I don’t have any friends that enjoy it as much as I do but that’s ok.

    I also do the family scrapbooking and agree family members love to see them!

  • Lynn Herrick

    Lovely, lovely show. I am not even close to being an empty nester and I loved it. Like Izzy said – it was an emotional rollercoaster! It made me stop and appreciate the life I am living with my children and think a bit about what our life will be without them. The ladies had fantastic ideas and observations.

  • Tina Campbell

    This was a good episode very enjoyable. I am in the empty nester have been for awhile and have to say I scrap things we do, the dogs, harvesting and canning also we’re Grandparents so lots to scrap there with the grandkids. I agree about the photo a day there is always something to scrap and if you get stuck then photo a day can really help.

    I’ve just joined as a member and look forward to seeing the videos thanks for the fun of listening to you all chat I enjoy it very much, keep on a laughin’

  • Melissa LaFavers

    Katie, I got to visit Whim So Doodle in St. Pete in July and totally LOVED that store! I’m lucky enough to have a local scrapbook store nearby in Michigan, but I was very taken with the layout and stock of Whim. I even found a stamp set I’d been wanting for a LONG time, there. Awesome place. Plus…hello…St. Pete, my original home town! :)

  • Yin

    Oh what a great show! It’s so reassuring that scrapbooking will not be over but will expand as we ourselves expand when the children leave the nest. Can’t wait for the day my boys show their girlfriends our scrapbooks!!! Right now I’m in the stage just before the empty nest, and everyday (as evident in almost every post I write and layout) I’m struggling with wanting to capture every bit of life (while they are still at home) with my 15 and 17 year old sons, while they don’t even want their pictures taken! Finding creative ways to scrapbook stories and capture moments is my goal these days and it would be great if you could have a show on this topic. (if you don’t already have, I’ll have to go check your archives) Thank you again!

  • Thank you for your membership, Tina! I hope you love the videos!!

  • Hi, Yin! Can you be more specific in what you’re looking for in the topic of finding creative ways to scrapbook stories and capture moments?

  • Yin

    Hi Noell! I mean ideas of how and what to scrapbook so as to capture our lives now, while they are still living at home, but without the abundance of good photos. For eg, I have been recording in project life our conversations, shared jokes, videos watched, computer games played, with photos of them taken from the back or without them knowing(haha), taken off facebook, or no photo at all. I’m happy to hear more ideas or just others who are in the same shoes :)

  • Cara

    I’m an empty nester too and loved this episode and the perspectives of all three guests, thank you.
    I grew up in the UK and like in the US I went away to university. As one of your guests said, I never gave any thought to how that felt for my parents (particularly as I’m an only child). I was just ready to go,I didn’t miss home and I never went back after graduating.
    Fast forward to living in Australia which has a very different system, with I would guess 90% of university students going to the university in their home city (and the other 10% being from the country and having no choice but to move out of home). This means that it is the norm for your university (college) age child to be living in your house, and families have to negotiate changing parent/child relationships and treating your children as adults (as long as they behave like adults!) Then it is the norm for those same children to start work in your home city, and many of them don’t move out of home – some because they can’t afford it, some because they are saving to buy their own home and some because they have it so good at home! There are thousands of people across Australia trying to get their late 20 something children to GO!!!

  • Tina Campbell

    If they are anything like your roundtable conversations then I should enjoy them very much :) I love to listen to your roundtables while scrapping a page feels like friends with me talking. :)

  • wendysmedley

    These are such good shares Katie!

  • HelenH

    Now that my boys are 21 & 24, I am scrapping to clean up their childhood. I am caught up on our family photo albums, but I want to take care of the papers, the toys, the stuff that accumulated over 20+ years. I’m creating true scrapbooks, and, interestingly, tearing apart and incorporating my own childhood scrapbooks into new books, for them, yes, if they want them, but for myself as well. While I continue to scrap recent photos, I am collecting and organizing material about my entire life, plus parents and grandparents. I want new documents to curate and replace physical stuff for our next phase, downsizing.

  • vintageplaid

    I am an empty nester, so it was very interesting to listen to a show that was entirely relevant to me. I loved hearing the ideas and experiences of others working through their kids leaving and moving on with the next stage of life. Definitely some bittersweet moments involved, but we had to look at it from the perspective that this is what we raised our daughters to do and be–adults who are capable of holding jobs, having careers, building their own lives…which meant they left home. I didn’t begin scrapbooking until after they were both married, so I have had a different sort of dilemma…what do I scrapbook? Some of the daily details because it is fun, but mostly what stories do I want to tell for our daughters and grandchildren? I am having a ton of fun along the way for myself with scrapbooking and mixed media techniques and card making, but I always need to be mindful of the big story…who we are (and were), what are our favorite memories are, and what do I want my grandchildren to remember about us?
    Thanks for a great show and of course all the laughs along with the food for thought.

  • I just wanted to let Izzy know that he can read my comments in any silly voice he likes – I wasn’t hating him, I was laughing when he used his movie voice! I like the idea of a “previously on the Roundtable” intro, but only if Izzy does the voice! But anyway, thanks for reading my comment. I hope it was helpful to someone.
    I also enjoyed the lemonade and massages story – glad you made sure that got told. The topic of the show was not relevant to my childfree life but it was fun to listen to on my walks anyway.

  • Cyndi

    Awesome episode! Life has soooooooo many layers! Children leaving home is only one of the many layers. Wow when our son left home life spiralled in all directions. Including the path he went on. I never stopped being his parent. We stayed connected whenever we felt we wanted to. Sometimes all the time and sometimes there were gaps. It was all good. Having an only child always permitted me to be my own person outside of parenthood. So not a lot really changed. Just the addresses. And not having to sit at the kitchen table to eat meals because I always needed to set a good example. And not having to keep track of his schedule because I felt a need to provide nourishment when he required food. And also not having to keep a pristine home because again I had a need to set an example of clean living! Lol Watching my son grow and experience and grow more is almost like living it all over again, except different of course. This time I get to sit back and chill and be supportive and lend a hand and just be there. And chillin’ is important I’ve learned. He needs to find his own way. Doing a mighty good job of it too!

    I’m not sure I would label myself as an empty nester even if our son doesn’t live with us. Our life is very full with his life and with the many extended family members. Never seems to be too much emptiness at all ????

    Dear son…..I will get around to scrapbooking your life one day but right now I’m busy having a life!

  • Julie Flores

    I LOVED this episode. This was completely relevant to me! Our only son is 23. He went to a university several hours away and now is attending law school on the east coast (we live on the west coast). These developments have been bittersweet and transitions I have had to deal with. You raise your children to be successful, which inevitably entails they leave you! Haha….

    His senior year and his first year in college were rough, emotional years. I think I actually turned to scrapbooking as therapy. I now had more time to enjoy the hobby and with all the social media available, I could still scrapbook his life happenings AND I could focus on myself. It was wonderful!

    When he graduated from college and shifted to school out of state, I decided to “distract” myself by working on my Master’s. Going back to school will keep you super busy, while working full time, and I hardly had time to miss him. I highly recommend distractions, Noell.

    New and exciting topics to scrapbook as an empty-nester: focusing on your hobbies, which you actually have more time to do! My husband and I are runners and decided to commit. We run marathons all over the nation, now, and travel so much more.As empty-nesters, weekends away/travel in general can happen more frequently. Love the getaways, dinners out, and adult fun (dates at wineries, concerts, etc…)! As the panel noted, the closer, personal look at your every day is refreshing! And the relishing of friendships and your relationship with your husband can be addressed and appreciated. Tons of scrapbooking fodder!

    I started scrapbooking 20 years ago. It is a hobby that has taken me through my child’s entire life and still allows me to celebrate life, in general. My son even sends me pics to include in Project Life, so a bit of him shows on my weekly layouts, so it still is a bond that draws our family together. =)
    Thanks for all you do! Thanks for doing this topic! Love it!

  • Robin W.

    I’m another empty nester. My son loved showing his future wife all of the scrapbooks when they were dating, and my daughter’s boyfriend has already asked if he gets to see them (she lives out of state).

    Both kids still show up in my pages. Sometimes I journal what I know, and other times I ask them to tell me about the story. For example, my daughter and her boyfriend decided to do a sweet tea taste test with several local restaurants this summer. They took pictures of each other getting the tea, and then a shot of both of them with all the cups. I think that was due to her growing up with a mom who scrapbooks! :) When she sent the photos to me unasked and told me the story, I was totally inspired to scrap them right away.

    Even though we don’t live together anymore, we are still family. Pages like these still tell our story, and that’s why I scrapbook. Thanks for another great episode! I also love the laughter and frequently laugh along with you; don’t stop.

  • Got it! Okay, I’m positive we did a show like this already — I think it was exactly this topic, for trying to scrapbook our teens, especially when they are in avoid-mode. Maybe someone can identify it so you can listen to it. If we find it and you feel like it still didn’t target what you’re looking for you could tell me what is missing and I could design a show on that. If I could just remember what episode that was…

  • I find myself really relating to a lot what’s been discussed here because I have kid that doesn’t want his photo taken, unless it’s a special occasion. We have a ways to go yet for an empty nest, but I feel like by the time it happens, I’ll have good practice in terms of scrapping. I already have to look for stories elsewhere.

    I’ve been using this an opportunity to get myself into the scrapbook more. My husband actually complained the other day that we have very few photos together, so I suppose that’s something that needs to appear more in my scrapbook pages. Recently my niece was married, so I’m looking forward to creating an album of her wedding.

    I do like getting down the funny conversations we have in our extended family, especially my dad. He’s not in the greatest of health, so now more than ever, I want to tell those stories.

    Marcia, you should have gotten the massage! And I want to know what Muppet each of you are. I know I’m more of a Grover.

  • Carol in the Land of Oz

    This is where I am at as well, Helen. The first couple of years, I decided I would totally clean up and sort photos (closets, school papers, etc)–and busy lifting some college photos off of Facebook to do pages along the way. I would sit in my room crying over some baby photos night after night–I was a bit pathetic! I have always said–we did not raise them to live in our basements! That being said, I am working towards something new. I have done some scrapping about our current life too–and theirs. I have a couple of very cute granddogs that even have a page–still might be a little pathetic!!!

  • Amy Kothe

    This episode couldn’t have come at a better time. I say that I am an “empty nester in training”. I have one daughter in college and a junior daughter and senior daughter in high school. I love the insights and ideas from the guests. For Christmas this year, I am going to ask the girls to start snapping a photo a month and I am going to start my first Project Life album. What a great memory book it will make of their day to day lives. I thought this idea was brilliant!

  • Carol in the Land of Oz

    My favorite episode as well, but this is where I am in life too. Not sure which of the ladies suggested sending a text once a month to them to randomly send me a photo. All mine are gone and they are good about sending photos and saving stuff for the scrapbook but I think the random photo would be fun too. Thanks for the idea. Depending on what I receive depends on where I will go with the photos! Great idea!!!

  • Courtney S

    So, the follow up to this is “Second Generation Scrappers” right? *wink, wink*
    When Noelle made the comment about a lot of scrapbookers are in this mode, the children leaving or almost leaving mode, I thought of how I’m not. My child is 4. But my mom has had children leave, and it made me realize I’m a second generation scrapper. Well, at least in it’s current prototype. I realize my Grandma saved things and photos as well. It was neat to hear how parents look at scrapping, especially as empty nesters.
    When I’m scrapping about an event, it’s from my perspective, and about my kid. When my mom scraps the same event, it’s from her perspective as my mom, and as a grandparent. I bet she sees the connections between me and my kid, where I see more him.

  • Karen Poirier-Brode (Ladydoc)

    You do make time for on-line friends though, Katie. We are glad for that!

  • Sue Costa

    Just got caught up to this episode. Loved the guests and their stories. I’m an empty nester and finally have time to do those things I had to put on hold while the kids lived at home, like scrapping. I especially liked the comments towards the end – asking the kids to each take a photo on a given day – great idea! I follow my daughters on FB and Instagram, so I get lots of photos that way. My son, not so much. I’ve had more time for close friendships now, too. When my triplets went off to college, three friends and I planned a trip to Las Vegas – we were all new empty nesters. I hadn’t had so much fun since I was in college. We now meet for coffee every week and share advice/sympathy/encouragement/laughter. We’re all dealing with adult children and aging parents, so it’s a great support group. And I scrap about those friends, too. I miss my kids when they’re away, but I’m so happy that they are taking on new experiences and enjoying independent lives now.

    Technical note for Izzie. I wanted to comment on iTunes, but from the iPad app, I don’t see anywhere to comment. I clicked on your link. It took me to my Podcast list. No comment button that I can see. Even asked my daughter :) so no luck there.

  • Becky Gotch

    I am so glad you posted about not being able to find the comment area on iTiunes from the iPad App. I thought it was me being particularly slow!

  • Gabrielle McCann

    OMG what a great episode!! I’m not an empty nester, having an 11 year old son (and can’t imagine the day he leaves!) but there was just such great conversation on this episode. And I loved the massages and lemonade story!!


    I could hear this, but was unable to see anything other than Paperclipping

  • Yes, it’s audio only. The player required a visual so we added the Paperclipping logo. I can see how that would be confusing. Sorry to confuse you!