PRT208 – I Hate Flowers

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  • Cindy_deRosier

    I don’t like the beach either, for exactly the same reason! I should scrap about that one of these days…

  • Frank Garcia

    Cindy! Isn’t that funny! The sand gets everywhere! haha Thanks for listening! :)

  • Hallelujah Julie Fei-Fan Balzer….Journalling and telling the story….yes!!! Frank Garcia I have been telling my students this for years…What is the story….pretty layouts with nothing…are the scrapbookers shoebox inheritance.

  • PjP

    100 snarky days? NO problem. Winter lasts 7 months where I live — I could give ya’ 200 snarky days without breaking a sweat.

    While we’re on the topic of snark, and just in case you guys thought you were the only ones I pick on, how about a topic for the Blow-Out show? Let’s call it “Hypocrisy in the Scrapbooking Industry.” So Silhouette thought a photo of a pair of Superman knickers was offensive, did they? I found their use of Native American caricatures in their Thanksgiving shape releases extremely offensive (yes, I ripped ’em a new one for it) but those ridiculous images are still available.

    They’re not the only offenders in this area, however. Last year, Simon Says Stamps were selling clear stamp sets featuring “bombshells,” including a set of images of a “sexy Indian princess.” If you want to understand why the marketing of sexualized images of Native women is offensive to Native women (and to anyone with half a brain) google “The Highway of Tears, British Columbia.” Then ask yourself, would they have gotten away with marketing this kind of product if the images had been of African American, rather than Native American, women?

    How can people in the industry be comfortably complicit in the exploitation of a vulnerable group of people for profit, but have an attack of the vapors when the see a pair of underpants?

  • Underwear???? Offensive ????

  • Seen your tag pages Julie and my creative wheels are spinning!

  • Gypsy Stockley

    Caroline Davis may just be my new favourite scrapbooker! I haven’t listened yet… but I looked at her blog… love!

  • marlajeanne

    Noelle, Although you couldn’t think of anything that has remained constant for you, I DO see something that has remained constant in your process — at least since I’ve been following you — it is what hooked me. You use ‘mood’ as a criteria to make all the decisions in creating a layout. Between this approach and Stacy’s ‘story’ approach, I have found my way of approaching the thousands of photos of my children’s childhood (now grown). THANK YOU.

    Also, you guys kept saying the word ‘risky’ when you were discussing using ‘risque’ photos. I heard it as ‘risque’ but then everyone else kept saying ‘risky’ — I guess both words are descriptive of the ‘problem’.

  • Your check is in the mail. ;)

    (And…THANK YOU!)

  • The choice to say risky is from the perspective of a business risking offending a customer. Risqué could definitely apply but I think risky was used, at least initially, because as a business in a very conservative community, we can easily offend and lose some customers. Each business in the scrap industry makes decisions as to whether something is too risky to say, show, or do.

  • I’m glad you pointed out the “mood” thing. I think I’ve done that since I learned design, and if so then I’ve scrapped that way since before I started Paperclipping. I’m not sure if I always did that from the beginning. If so it was a little less conscious I bet.

  • I don’t get it either!! I’ve seen that layout on her blog. It’s so tame!!

  • Very interesting thoughts. Izzy and I teach our kids that morality has everything to do with whether we’re hurting others. It boggles my mind to hear girls in our dance studio freak out about a mild swear word in a song, and then turn around and call someone stupid. I equate what you’re saying with that. Superman underwear I’m someone’s hands don’t hurt anyone, but a portrayal of a group of people can.

  • Ok, while I love the beach I admit I could never camp at one. The sand would kill me. I don’t know how anyone does that.

  • Cindy_deRosier

    I’m the only one at the beach wearing jeans, high socks and hiking boots. That’s the only way I can tolerate the sand.

  • Cindy_deRosier

    So sad to hear that anyone at Scrapbook.com would post negative comments on your layouts, Frank. Let me assure you that there are a lot of us who frequent the forums there that welcome and appreciate the diversity of scrapbookers who are willing to share their layouts.

  • I totally agree with this comment. I got super sucked into reading your blog last night. I was inspired by your pages, your story and I loved your voice -you’re right when you said your sense of humor wasn’t as apparent on the show but you also have a great “radio” voice. Hope Noell has you on again!

  • Frank Garcia

    Thank You Cindy. I respect people’s views, and I don’t let things like that get to me. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I understand that! I simply enjoy the journey and have fun! :)

  • UnapologeticallyTracey

    PjP has officially posted my favorite comment ever. Agree 100%. Additionally, to echo Cindy, it breaks my heart that some other scrapbookers would not embrace seeing a diversity of relationships and lifestyles from artists in galleries or on blogs. It is incredibly common to see lovey-dovey layouts featuring photos heterosexual couples holding hands or kissing, and it is ridiculous to think that being able to post something like this is a privilege that should only be accessible to heterosexual scrapbookers. I would wholeheartedly welcome more diversity in what we see in scrapbook layouts in our community — including Superman underwear!

  • Wow! Thank you so much! This honestly made my day.

  • Frank Garcia

    You rock Tracey! :)

  • Ha! Wow!

  • Oh, we love her. We’ll definitely have her back!!

  • Sandy Baldwin

    I only go to the beach to take photos of the kids and family. Personally I’m not a fan of sand either :-) but often the lighting is great to practice my photography skills and some of my most favourite photos have been taken at the beach.

  • ldmccarty

    Another fantastic show! Loved hearing the panelists who are so different and hearing their takes on process, tools, etc. 2 thoughts:

    1. In discussing the change in your feelings about pages from long ago, I will often add a small (2×3 or 3×4) clear pocket that Close to My Heart makes. It has a sticker along the side so I can add it to the page where I think it looks best and when it’s folded over, it doesn’t really obstruct the original page. I will add journaling about how I feel about the event or memory now. And if in 5 years, that changes again, I will add another pocket w/more journaling. I think that seeing the changes in how I recall a memory or what I recall about it will be part of the fun of whoever looks through my scrapbooks in the future.

    2. I loved hearing how so many said “I’m not beholden to others’ opinions of my pages anymore, I follow my own path”….. That is a wonderful and powerful feeling and it’s a big part of why older women were so harassed in history. A mature woman will find it harder and harder to go along w/”conventional wisdom” and is much more apt to call it like she sees it. That was a danger to the power structures in the past :*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_the_early_modern_period

  • Well, that’s fascinating. A bit from the article…

    Barstow (1994) claimed that a combination of factors, including the
    greater value placed on men as workers in the increasingly wage-oriented
    economy, and a greater fear of women as inherently evil, loaded the
    scales against women, even when the charges against them were identical
    to those against men.[110] Thurston (2001) saw this as a part of the general misogyny
    of the Late Medieval and Early Modern periods, which had increased
    during what he described as “the persecuting culture” from that which it
    had been in the Early Medieval. He noted that at the time, women were
    generally considered less intelligent and more susceptible to sin than
    men.[111]

    Whilst not all of those who condemned witchcraft in this period
    specifically condemned women as well, there were those who did, for
    instance, in the Malleus Malificarum, Sprenger and Kramer stated that:

    All wickedness is but little to the wickedness of a woman … What
    else is woman but a foe to friendship, an inescapable punishment, a
    necessary evil, a natural temptation, a desirable calamity, a domestic
    danger, a delectable detriment, an evil of nature, painted with fair
    colours![112]

  • acrossthelines

    oh man, I thought I was the only one who was seriously offended by this kind of stuff. I’m so glad you brought this up. It’s disgusting the kind of characatures that are portrayed in this industry.

  • acrossthelines

    I actually had the exact opposite reaction to Frank’s pages, which was ‘yay! finally someone like me!’ I don’t know if there’s some sort of underground queer scrapbooking ring but I sometimes feel invisible in this industry. I mean single scrapbookers are a minority but glbtq scrapbookers seem to be non existent. As someone who’s both, I sometimes crave layouts that aren’t straight families. I know I can apply techniques to my stories, but representation matters.

  • paubas

    For many months I received the email for the PRT, and never was
    interested on hear a scrap program..(can they talk about scrap?.. is so visual…
    mmm no I don’t think so)… but one day ( a happy day) I said.. why not.. lets
    hear them…

    Today is Wednesday and I am thinking .”.the mail.. I want to received
    the mail notifying the upload of the program wy there is no mail yet.. IZZYYYYY..”

    So.. I want to thank you for your creativity, good advices and constant
    search for ideas to inspires us

    Paulina from Chile, South America

  • Amy Lou

    Hello. I am new to listening to the Roundtable and I just had to let you know how much I enjoy it! This was my first show to listen to. I have been feeling very unsettled lately because I have to spend 8-9 hours at my “real job” while my heart wants to be back at home creating in my craft space. I found that listening to your discussion “feeds” the crafty part of my mind while I am stuck at work getting the bills paid. :) I have gone back to listen to previous shows but I have found that when I start listening to a show, as soon as you start reading the comments from the previous show, I want to stop and change to the previous show! I also love how Izzy injects just the right amount of humor and I find myself cracking up at his statements, causing my coworkers to look twice at me when they walk past my office. Thank you so much for bring this show to us. I have become aquanted with people in the industry who I would not have known about otherwise.
    By the way, I looked at the “offensive” underwear layout. I loved it!

  • Amy

    I didn’t see this answered, however, ICYMI- “the way back” is where you sat in the back of the station wagon, facing backwards (before seat belts). The trunk portion in a station wagon. We used to call dibs on it, -“I got the way back”. There is already a film called The Way Back, so they added an extra way to the title. The boy was sitting in the way back during the trip. Wonderful movie BTW. A must see for everyone!

  • That’s funny! That’s what my 13 year old said and my response was “ooooh!” but honestly I didn’t believer her. :P I’m glad for the confirmation! My family never had a station wagon – we were so cool we had a VW Bus. (That “so cool” is sarcastic – we kids loved it but my mother *hated* driving it! I didn’t understand what her beef was then, but now I think I get it!)

    And we really enjoyed the movie, too! It was interesting to see Steve Carell playing a hate-able character! I love coming of age movies, and this was a good one!

  • Amy

    My 13 year old had no idea. She didn’t even know what a station wagon was! How cool would that VW bus be now!

  • Such a great discussion. I had a great time listening to Frank sharing his experience teaching in Sweden. I lived in the southern part of Sweden for 5 1/2 years. I had a wonderful group of scrapbooking friends there. We met monthly for crops and lovely conversation. I am sure the Swedish scrappers were thrilled to have Frank teach!
    And Frank, farts are everywhere in Swedish!

  • oh and Izzy, thanks for reading my comment. I do organize my comments with an outline! I wouldn’t need to outline if I was better at getting the point. Lol!

  • I really like your comment. I think when scrapbooking really became a thing, it was seen as an acceptable way for women to have a hobby that documented their family’s life. But for some reason, scrapping your own life seemed a bit taboo. It has taken years of teachers reminding individuals that their stories matter. I love seeing work from a variety of individuals and families. I like seeing women and men who document the hard things in their lives and don’t always try and portray a perfect image when their lives are anything but. I am thinking specifically of layouts which document divorce or other painful separations.

    I think it is wonderful that you are documenting your story and I hope to see more. Since scrapbook magazines seem to have died, at least most print versions, perhaps the internet will provide more opportunities for representation from a more diverse group of scrapbookers.

  • Welcome to the show!!

  • Ha ha! I’m glad I finally convinced you to give it a try. Welcome to the show! :)

  • You’re more than welcome to share your pages here as they relate to topics we discuss!! Maybe others will see yours and feel more comfortable sharing theirs. ??? I don’t know whether we have many glbtq listeners or not, but if we do, this is a safe place for you to find each other and share. :)

  • Paul Browning

    You can count me as a glbtq lol Get in touch ‘across the lines’ I know a few scrapbookers blogs :)

  • Paul Browning

    I heard the episode just before I embarked on holiday and fortunately so as I was foot-stompingly annoyed when I heard that you had negative comments for layouts which contained your sweetie. If I’d have had access to my computer, I would have been typing out a comment on here I’d regret lol. Your layouts are fabulous and though I love that you are respectful of others (you are so sweet) those who were negative to your layouts were certainly not respectful of you. Good on Prima for not holding the same views and letting you express yourself. The rebel in me wanted to grab my camera, plant a big sloppy smacker on my OH, take a pic and make a layout of it, then post it online. I have bought Noelle’s Romance course and when I have time I want to document my relationship of 17 years to Nick. Any scrapbook layout that shows a couple in love gay, straight, any race, any age etc is to be welcome. I want to see more layouts of couples in love and sharing their stories. The more variety the better :) Pxx

  • Niki Ruda

    I just visited Caroline’s blog and LOVE her work! She is so inspiring to me! I commented on one of her blog posts (she scrapbooked a selfie while on the PRT!) I shared with her an idea that I had for creating an Instagram album; it goes like this: “I wanted to share an idea that I am pursuing in regard to my Instagram
    photos. We frequent the same places on a regular basis so I have been
    challenging myself to look for new details in those locations and snap a
    photo each visit. I then post with the #guesswhereweare. I plan to
    print them and place them in the new Sn@p product Insta-Pockets by
    Simple Stories. My intention is to print several of the small squares
    and fill a page protector then on the opposing side make a coordinating
    6×8 page with #guesswhereweare as a title and identify the
    location!” So the new Sn@p product Insta-Pockets by Simple Stories is my pick of the week!

  • Gabrielle McCann

    I’m the same Cindy … I really hate sand!

  • Gabrielle McCann

    Whole-heartedly agree