PRT179 – I Wanted to Wait

This week we’re talking about scrapbooking current events!

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  • Bethany Rielage

    I haven’t listened to the whole episode yet, but I just heard you refer to the past show when you talked with the author of the scrapbooking novel (PRT093). I think it’s very ironic for me because I’ve been trying to catch up with past episodes, and i just finished listening to that previous episode a few days ago! I’m very excited to now listen to the rest of this episode having the previous one fresh in my mind!

    Also, I had to laugh about Shimelle and Stacy’s discussion about the weather and how it was getting off topic. Just for the record, whenever Shimelle and Stacy are on, they can talk about whatever they want and I’ll listen! Love them!

  • McKenzie McGehee

    I loved this episode, my mind is absolutely whirling with ideas. I also talked to my car stereo several times, so I thought I would share one of the things you couldn’t hear.

    Stacy mentioned icons (also called “Infographics) to show elements of your life and it reminded me of a Radiolab/99% Invisible podcast I listened to which featured a guy named Nicholas Felton who each year comes out with a report about his life, documenting everything from places visited, music listened to, to pictures taken and clothes worn in infographics and graphs. I am obsessed!

  • stepharmstrong

    Stacy your pick made me think of this facebook page that I have “liked”, it comes up with all kinds of great stuff from decades past.

  • stacyj

    thank YOU for sharing this link with me and others — cool!

  • PjP

    Re: Shimelle’s “drinking game” letter from last week. I went back and read all of that discussion about posting on boards and it has rather hit a nerve for me. I used to spend half my life on “the boards,” which was hard on the budget because they’re an enabler’s paradise and they cut into the time I should have been spending scrapbooking. That wasn’t why I quit the boards though: I quit because of the hypocrisy. Either an online entity is a commercial venture or it’s a community — it’s not both. The word “community” gets thrown around a lot by scrapbook retailers but the bottom line (in both senses of the phrase) is this: you want my money for your product. If I want your product, I’ll give you my money. If you rip me off you will hear about it, probably on your public forum. That forum is a marketing tool, first and foremost: if it wasn’t a way to sell more product no one would sink the money and time into maintaining it. Forums encourage participants to make purchases from on-line stores and no moderator is going to jump in and say “Aww shucks, you shouldn’t have!” when you praise their products. They will be all over you like a duck on a June bug if you complain about lousy service or shoddy goods on their forum though: if you really MUST complain, they’d prefer you used a private e-mail. I know that forum moderators are often “volunteers,” but they get paid in goods and discounts, so I’m not all that fussed about their tender feelings. It’s called capitalism folks: the market gives and the market takes away. It ain’t pretty and it ain’t fair, but it’s the world we live in. I don’t want to see the industry die any more than Shimelle does, but I also don’t feel sorry for businesses that falter when the market changes and I no longer feel like participating in any on-line marketing tools that call themselves communities and then try to censor my input.

  • If you don’t use the boards, then it doesn’t matter to you if the business and its boards shut down. But the point is for those scrapbookers who DO use the boards and who would be heartbroken if those boards shut down.

  • Marie Cole

    I wish there was a Like button here. Honestly, this is the first episode of PRT that I didn’t finish listening to. All the hand-slapping and preaching about what we should and shouldn’t post on a message board (that has nothing to do with PRT) was a real turn-off to me. I really used to enjoy the in-depth conversations about scrapbooking topics, but I don’t need anyone telling me what is appropriate and inappropriate on a message board, especially from someone who doesn’t own the board in question.

  • Krystal

    Props to everyone on the panel for sharing their thoughts on the forum boards in this episode. Many people are very selfish and think about only themselves when posting and not the impact on the company that is providing the forum or service. If you like a company, why would you want to damage their reputation? There is a lot of ignorance and without being informed of what happens behind the scenes, we can only assume and have really no idea at all. There are many rules that people think are ‘stupid’ or don’t make any ‘sense’. I like hearing an explanation of WHY that rule was made. This PRT did that, because personally, I had no idea. LOVED the show- All 89 minutes of it.

    Marie, no one was talking specifically to you. It’s a podcast that thousands listen to…. take everything with a grain of salt. There is also a fast forward button to use if you want to skip a part. No big deal. Preaching? LOL I didn’t hear any of that!!!!

  • Krystal :)

    Just an idea I thought of after listening to this episode… I would love to have taken a picture of my mom (or have my picture taken) of when she was taking a picture. Does that make sense? Her holding the camera ‘taking a picture of me’ while I was actually taking a picture of her…I remember my mom’s first digital camera when I was like 13, maybe older, not sure. I’m 28 now. Man, that thing was big and bulky. BUT… it would be cool to show all the different cameras being used to even a picture of the cell phone being held up to take a photo. I definitely think that shows something in time and I never would have thought years ago that 98% of my pictures would be in the same device I use to order takeout.

  • Marie Cole

    Actually, I used the Stop button, but thanks for the suggestion. Just giving my opinion, and you are, of course, entitled to yours too.

  • Shimelle Laine

    There is, in essence, a like button on Disqus comments. Next to the reply button, you can vote any comment up or down, which is similar to the like/dislike function.

    I’m sorry you felt this discussion was preachy, because that certainly wasn’t my intention when I responded to the last episode with my comment, nor when we discussed it in this episode, but nonetheless it obviously was interpreted as such and that was not my intention. My intention was to share my viewpoint which comes from a different point to many in the industry, because I honestly think it is something many people may not have thought about. I didn’t really think about it at all until I found myself in a position where I read so much of a message board, and it surprised me and took me a while until I formed an opinion of the implications. My intention was awareness, not preaching, and I have no delusions of grandeur that it would cause some massive change in behaviour.

    I can assure you that after the mail segment there was indeed a really in-depth discussion about a scrapbooking topic – including current events, perspective from past events, and other evidence from the world outside one’s household in our scrapbooks. There have been points raised on the PRT in the past that I didn’t personally agree with or feel would help my creativity, but as each episode has a new panel and a new topic, there is a new start with something completely different to consider. I hope you find next week’s discussions more inspiring.

  • Shimelle Laine

    This is a really interesting viewpoint and I’m glad you stepped forward to share this. I don’t think it’s any big secret that companies started forums as part of a marketing plan. If we continue with the comparison to bricks and mortar stores we visit on a regular basis, displays of product on endcaps, signs pointing out sales, and even announcements over the intercom to point out whatever special is on are all in-store marketing techniques. I wouldn’t go into a Target and expect to see a poster from Wal-Mart, and if I did I would certainly feel it was surprising and out of place. You make a *really* valid point about the enabling, that if I want to go to Target and get just what I need and not be upsold to more, I should probably avoid all displays, posters, and end-caps because I’ll end up buying all sorts of stuff I didn’t need! That’s pretty much the curse of Target, isn’t it? Go in to spend $20 and walk out having spent $100? They are good at that sort of in-house marketing! They know what is likely to make you buy more than you planned and they go for it. If an online store starts a forum as part of their in-house marketing, should they relinquish all control or should they know what is likely to help them make sales and maximise that? (That’s a bigger question than I think can be answered in a few words – I just wanted to bring that comparison through so my train of thought was hopefully somewhat clear. I think finding the ideal balance of moderating discussion is difficult at best and quite possibly impossible.) I guess where I differ is that I don’t see how something can’t serve a marketing purpose as well as a community. Is there another name for the group of people who discuss things regularly on a message board if they are not considered a community? I see the founding of a board as a marketing technique and the people who use that board as a community – they are all there by choice and they have the freedom to spend their time anywhere they please. But people tend to post and read the same boards for an extended amount of time, so they get to know each other and engage in conversation – that makes them a community to me. I guess I am lacking another label for a ‘community’ of people that comes from the venture.

    Anyway, what I wanted to get to here was something I wasn’t thinking about when we started this particular discussion after the previous episode – I was talking about the suggestion to shop at other companies rather than positive/negative feedback on the company at hand, and it was narrow of me not to consider that – I’m sorry about that. For the sake of clarity, I think my personal stance on having a bad experience with any particular company (be it Target, the telephone company, or a scrapbooking retailer) is to give them a chance to put something right, and for that in real life I would go to the customer service desk rather than shouting in the middle of the store then heading for the exit. However, if the customer service desk (be that in person, email, or telephone) didn’t respond in a manner I thought acceptable, of course I would be livid, and I have certainly told others of my bad experiences when I feel they should be warned. (In fact, anyone ever looking to rent in London, I’m happy to tell you what estate agency to avoid with the longest barge pole you can find!) In that case, I think it can be totally warranted to air a grievance in a public forum and you’re quite right that if a store is going to have an open forum for discussion, that is the reality that comes along with it. Whether they choose to delete it or answer it and improve from it can certainly say a great deal about the company.

    I will say in my whole thought process I was never thinking about the ‘tender feelings’ of any board moderators, and my thoughts came from the impact to the bottom line of using a store’s board to ask where else to shop – since the discussion in question was about kit clubs, that to me translates to ‘if I could spend $40 a month on any kit, where should I spend it?’ and if the shop in question doesn’t have a kit, it’s pretty hard to turn that into a discussion that is positive to their bottom line. I take what you say about the market though – perhaps their answer is to have a kit if that is popular question, and so on.

    I’m sorry yet again I’ve gotten really long and wordy with this, PjP, and this is one of those times where I *really* wish I was better at explaining myself in fewer words. While I realise that we don’t exactly agree on this subject, I’m still really glad that you shared this opinion with the perspective of someone who was active on message boards and chose not to be. Thank you.

  • I agree with your statement that if a board, whatever it’s commercial reason for existence, is proclaiming to be a “community” then it needs to realize that there will always be dissenting opinions. That is just a given on the Internet. The forum can politely tolerate dissent and try to learn from the criticism or it can simply delete the content if it feels strongly about it, can’t it?

    That being said, personally, I find that many, but overall too few, dissenting opinions full of useful knowledge. I carefully weigh forum posts that are all glowing comments about any subject if I know the writer is compensated for their opinion. I am very analytical, so I like to hear both bad and good. If a poster can balance their viewpoint, then I find that valuable to me in helping to allocate my scrapbooking budget.

    I don’t think it is quite fair for a commercial enterprise to complain about the fact that their audience are thinking from a consumers point of view, can you? Consumers are what they are counting on!

    Besides, posters that are rude or simply bellyaching end up being ignored anyway. Likewise, posts that are nothing more than a rah-rah for a product without explaining why that is, would be much more valuable if they explain why such and such is good, and worthy of consideration and purchase.

    So I am a proponent of making all forum comments more thoughtful and thought-provoking. One can be always be polite while expressing an alternative point of view. And I hope I have been here.

  • Andrea

    Thanks for the heads-up about Stitch Fix – to answer Izzy’s question, I heard about a male version of that called Trunk Club very recently on the Penny Arcade DLC podcast (wonder if I’m the only person who listens to both PRT and Penny Arcade?), which left my husband and I wondering if there was a female version of the service.

  • Tiffany W.

    Fascinating discussion. Context matter profoundly! Our lives are shaped very much by larger events. I think it would be fascinating to make a layout with two contrasting FB posts. I know I have many friends with differing political opinions. It would be cool to take two different political posts and the ensuing discussion and put that on a layout. I think it would be a great way to show how polarizing the political atmosphere is in the U.S.

    As for which events to choose, we are all impacted differently by different events. During the horrible tsunami that hit Thailand and parts of Asia, I lived in Sweden, where many Swedes were vacationing. It was a national tragedy. It was something that I heard a lot about and even visited a big museum exhibit portraying items from victims of the devastation. I was also living in Sweden during Hurricane Katrina and while I was sad, the tragedy honestly did not impact my life in nearly the same way as much as the tsunami.

    Or another example. . . I was living in Saudi Arabia when the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary school took place. I know internationally it was a big news event. But this felt terribly personal to me as I knew people whose children attended that school. my daughter was also the same age as the majority of the victims. I had a much more personal connection to real people and so even though I lived thousands of miles away, it was devastating. I was also in Saudi Arabia when the Boston Marathon bombing took place. But I didn’t have a personal connection to the place and while I definitely felt horror and shock, my feelings about the event weren’t nearly as intense as they were about the Sandy Hook tragedy.

    I like the idea of journaling about the events and saving relevant articles as things happen. Perhaps coming back to them in reflection is a good way to put events in context.

    In 2008, I made a layout about gas prices and the election. I have referred to that layout many, many times. I took a picture of the prices displayed at a fuel pump. It “fueled” many thoughts about the turmoil the U.S. was facing.

    I also like the idea of making layouts about funny news items, like celebrity gossip. That feels really authentic to me as I’m sure we are all guilty of checking out gossip magazines, especially while waiting in line at grocery stores!

  • Tiffany W.

    What a shame, Marie. The rest of the episode was really great and interesting.

  • Oh no, my comment is gone :(
    I shall retype :)

    Wow! This episode is sooooooo full of ideas and inspiring! I find myself nodding every 3 seconds in agreement . First off, thanks to Izzy for sharing Google Trends. I realise that you can refine your search by country, giving a even more accurate picture of the trends around you :) Secondly, thanks for sharing Stitch Fix. Now i’m interested. But sadly they don’t do international mail. I shall wait :)

    After listening to the episode 2 times, I was reminded of the difference of how my sister and I view the world, verses how my parent view it. My parents didnt even know what is Facebook, not to mention the social media icons that Stacy is talking about, My parents do not use computer, they do not understand the idea behind social media. For example, before my mother get her phone, she has to stick to the time she is meeting her friend or risk not able to see them. My dad will spend money on DVD while my sister and I just download online at a cheaper rate. He is surprise that we can find movies online. How we view the world is so different.

    From Stacy and Noell’s story of waiting, I find it so true! On Chinese New Year’s Eve, my family will go to a restaurant for reunion dinner. Due to the crowd, we have to wait for quite a long time. My sister will be too busy checking her twitter feed, while i will be busy instagram-ing about the restaurant, my shoe, my outfit of the day etc. My parents will be so frustrated and started complaning about the wait. I thought they we usually more patient then we children are. Now that i think about it, I realize that it probably got to do with how unoccupied they are , while we children are so pre-occupied with our smart phone.

    Thanks for sharing all the ideas! I cant wait to scrapbook about this topic!

  • Bookworm9798

    Stitch Fix is fun. I really like that you don’t have to subscribe — you can simply order a “fix” when it works well for you and your finances. I’ve gotten two boxes so far and opted to keep one item from each box and return the rest. Convenient and painless. :)

  • Always great to hear from a fellow archivist! :)

  • TracieClaiborne

    Today in the car, my (non-scrappy) friend and I were reminiscing about stamps we collected in the 70’s where we would fill up a book and then go to a little store and buy something with them. Green stamps, maybe? Anyway….since my friend is not scrappy – during the course of the conversation, I was thinking to myself, “I really need to scrap how these things were in my childhood and unique things in my life today and how technology and our life will probably change so much by the time I have grandchildren.” Tonight I turned on the PRT and voila! Perfect inspiration for what was already brewing in my head!!! This week’s guests worked so great together! Of course, I always love hearing my hero, Stacy!!! Another brilliant episode! Thank you!

  • TracieClaiborne

    It’s a shame you missed such a great episode….this really was one of my favorites. I’m going to be thinking of it for a long while. It has ignited a fire in me to get some important stories scrapped. Out of all the PRT episodes – I’d say this was in the top five!

  • TracieClaiborne

    Krystal – that really is a great idea. My Mom has never taken a photo of anything in her entire life. Shocking but true. I want to have my daughter take a pic of me taking a pic now! Thanks!

  • Marilyn

    I think you missed the point: she DID use the boards, until it became an unwelcoming place to be. I wonder how her shopping there was impacted? I know I no longer shop at the place I used to visit and now get all kinds of recommendations on great stores at my new board home.

  • Stacy Simpson

    Oh WOW! Thank you so much for sharing your grandma’s story Stacy. This was huge for me. Makes me want to journal on a whole new level!

  • Wow, glad you liked it so much! Your stamp story in the other comment is a perfect example!!

  • But that is actually my point — she found a board that is appropriate for discussions that she wants where she can refer and be referred to other stores.

  • I can see merit in what both sides are saying. Izzy and I chose to make Paperclipping open to what could be called my “competition.” I bring guests on the show and encourage them to promote their own classes, even though I know it advertises more options for my audience to put their money, and they may choose a guest’s class over my own membership.

    I’m fine with audience members coming here and praising another class people can take somewhere else (although I would find it quite annoying if someone took advantage of the situation and used my site as a way to pimp their own class over and over again in comments – fortunately people don’t do that).

    So I do understand the opinion that a board where people can openly share is valuable — because that’s the type of community I want here.

    But as the owner of Papeclipping, that’s the choice I’ve made. I also understand why a business owner who puts a lot of money into her site, might not want people using it to send customers elsewhere, and might be willing to lose some customers over it. I respect that desire, even if I haven’t chosen that policy for Paperclipping.

    And from the point of view of the consumer — I’m fiercely loyal to a business that provides me a decent service, even if it’s not perfect, and even if the owner isn’t perfect. So it also makes sense to me that the consumer who enjoys a board (even if it’s imperfect) might be smart not to send customers all around and potentially put the provider of the board out of business.

  • Mary L

    I was mixed on this episode – first of all, I love the Roundtable. I discovered it almost a year ago and I have been listening starting from the present and working backwards (I’m now on episode #38, so I will be very upset when I “only” have one episode a week to listen to). It has honestly changed my opinion on many of the well-known scrapbookers – in most cases I liked them even better once I heard their voices and they became real to me. I almost cried when I heard Stacy Julian’s story about her daughter’s name. Noelle and Izzy feel like my friends and I really miss Nancy now (how is she doing?)

    However, sometimes I feel like the episodes are out of touch with those of us on a budget. We really try to “make do” in my family – I just recently upgraded my flip-phone to an Android, but I still don’t have a data plan; I only use wi-fi. I agonize over purchases for weeks. We don’t have an ipad and really don’t plan to get one until competition sets in and the prices go way down. Why would I pay $3 for Starbucks coffee when I could make a couple of pots for the same price? I don’t mean to pick on these specific things; I know that all of us make sacrifices in some areas in order to splurge with others. Noelle has made many comments in the past about stretching her stash and waiting to purchase some big-ticket items. However, every year I go to a scrapbook retreat that is absolutely fabulous, but I only pay $70 for 2 nights lodging, food, and crop space. It is mostly attended by Mennonite and Amish ladies. (I’m neither of those). These ladies are simple, many make their own clothes, but they can scrapbook beautiful pages and they have quite the stash themselves. Nobody worries about what is the “latest and greatest”, the newest apps, and many have never heard of the most recent TV shows. I live between Philadelphia and Lancaster and have very few scrapbooking friends in my neighborhood, but these ladies are passionate about scrapbooking and for them, it is alive and well.

  • Keely

    Tracie, I agree!! Before the end of this current PRT episode, I had already decided I wanted to replay it. It was a great discussion.

  • Hey, Mary — I know what you’re saying and I totally know what that’s like. I’ve been there.

  • Ahhh…nice!

  • Susan Romick

    Paperclipping member – AGAIN! I heard Izzy talk about the
    great deal on membership and decided I should not only support Paperclipping Roundtable by clicking on the link when I sign up for a Big Picture Class, but should
    directly support a program that is my staple listening activity while scrapping
    and crafting. Yes, I will admit, I am a repeat listener and once again a
    full-fledged member.

    Your chat this week about context was very timely. On Thursday I was
    listening to my morning radio station to hear them lead the news with the
    headline – Police want to question SCRAPPER in critical condition after roof
    collapse. I have heard people say you have so much stuff the floor will cave in, but the ROOF? It wasn’t until I heard the rest of the story that I realized that they were not talking about our kind of scrapping – but the metal, illegal kind of scrapping.
    Later, when I was telling the story to my husband, his reaction was the
    same as mine. A scrapper? Police? (for a moment I thought his expression
    reflected a new found respect for scrappers! Macho stuff!)
    Context CAN change everything.

    Question: As I am looking through some pictures to scrap
    (the legal kind) I noticed stuff in the background that would certainly add
    cultural context that other people (my children and grandchildren) might not
    notice, but it has no link to the story. Any suggestions for including
    cultural context without taking away from the story you want to tell?

    Thanks for the many hours you spend with me in my craft room. Crafting, learning, and having fun – what more can you ask of crafting buddies. Well, maybe you could bring the coffee the next time.

    Thanks again, the roundtable is always a worth my time – time and time again.

  • Oh, that’s funny! And YAY, thank you for your returned membership!!

    So here are two things I do in terms of the picture details that aren’t related to the story:
    1) Scrapbook the picture twice — once to tell the main story, another time to tell the other story/stories. Two different stories, two different pages, same picture.
    2) Scrapbook the main story, but in a little side not on the same page, or in a pocket on the same page, I not the context info that I also told.
    For example, if it’s just a little thing, I might handwrite a little paragraph off to the side that says, “See that wooden box on the cabinet? That’s a music box. Your great-great grandpa bought that, probably at the end of the 1880’s.” et.
    I have another page where I had a lot of contextual/historical info so I typed it up onto cute paper that was probably 3×8, and attached a cute clip to the top, and then stuck it between two layers on the page. If you want to read it you pull it out by the clip.

  • Jan G

    I have listened to this episode three times already and probably will listen again as it sparked an interest in making an entire album on trends. I love the ideas and thank you for the links to search for more. My question is, do you Noell, or anyone else, make separate albums for these types of pages or do you just intergrade them into your regular albums? I started making a list of items, trends to scrap and I’m surprised at how much I forget about, even while staring right at something in my home. We become so used to an item or idea yet when it is gone, we only then realize that it was a trending item/idea. Its hard to think what items might not be here in the future! Thanks for any ideas you might have on creating such an interesting album!
    Also, Shimelle, I thought your comment was very accurate. I don’t mean to put anyone down here on this at all, so please don’t take this wrong, but I agree that we have to respect what board/store owners request of us in order to use their product, after all, it is their board! Honestly, there are so many boards out there, I believe there is one for every personality/buyer/poster. I would hope that we could each be patient with one another and respect opinions because, as with anything in life, we all have differences. No need to bash one another for those differences in opinions. Sometimes, not saying anything at all is the best answer. I try to respect those and understand each side and I believe Shimelle and Noell both did just that in their replies. Thank you ladies for an awesome show. Keep em coming! They are so very much appreciated!

  • SarahGrass

    Well, your comment made me think of wanting to take a picture of the pile of cameras that sometimes happens when people are trying to take a big group picture where the person taking the picture is being asked to take one on many people’s cameras. I was just thinking about how that happens less frequently now, especially with people my age and younger because they can just take one and send it / upload it for everyone now.

  • SarahGrass

    I do agree with you, but in fairness to PRT I feel like I have noticed what you’ve mentionned pretty much everywhere in the scrapbooking world and actually some places (like some message boards I’ve been on) are much much worse in terms of conspicuous consumption and assumptions they make about people. I actually give PRT some credit for at least making an effort to be inclusive in that way.

    Actually one thing I have noticed about the scrapbooking world in general over the years is that it seems like there has been a move from the diy making stuff to the throw money into things route. By that I mean that over the years it seems like there has been a push or movement towards getting people to buy expensive tools to cut out things that they might have cut out with scissors or an exacto knife years before or buying an expensive set of stamps with handwritten sentiments rather than using their own handwriting.

    So I get what you are saying. I would love to see the kinds of pages that the Mennonite ladies at your retreat are making. I don’t know about you but for me the biggest part of my scrapbooking budget is printing the photos :)

  • SarahGrass

    I know project life was mentioned in the episode as a trend, but one thing having to do with current events that Becky Higgins did that I fell in love with was the ‘time capsule’ cards in the Baby edition core kits with prompts to fill in about the prices of bread and gas and the top pop culture and political facts of the moment when the baby is born. I loved it so much that I have thought about replicating that idea as the final page in all my yearly albums.

  • I’ve noticed this trend, and have even noticed it in myself. I used to do tons of DIY and loved using disposable household items in my scrapbooking, but I recently realized I have almost no desire for that now. I’ll have an idea but am actually NOT attracted to it anymore. Once I noticed that about myself I realized it’s community-wide, just as you’re saying. You don’t really see anyone online doing that these days.
    Fads and trends move back and forth so I’m guessing we’ll likely swing back the other way again. Maybe it’s because the economy has either leveled out or improved and people are enjoying the ability to spend a little money again after holding off for those years when it was at a bottom.

  • Cool idea!

  • Devra

    Hi , I have been listening for about a year, and this is my first time commenting. Stacy’s comment about context brought to mind two stories about my grandparents, as well as reference to a word we no longer use. Please bear with me. I’ll try to make this as concise as possible.

    The first was when I was in High School. We always went to spend the day with my grandparents on Sundays. I was always allowed to bring a friend. One time I brought a friend and my Grandma (whom we call Nani) pulled me aside. She said to me “In all this time you’ve been talking about this friend, you didn’t tell me she was black.” My response was “I didn’t think it mattered”. to which she replied, “it doesn’t, I just thought it would be something you mention about her.” This was mid 1980’s. I guess in Nani’s 70+ year old mind, her skin color should have been part of her description, a preface to who she is. Is she defined by her skin color? My son today, never uses skin color in a description about his friends.

    Flash forward 20 years. I am now married and just had my second child who was born with Special Needs. When telling my other grandmother about him, She says to me, “well is he Mongoloid?” Again. context. That was the term for children born with what we now call Down Syndrome. Her reference was to what she knew happened to children born with disabilities when my father was born in the 40’s. The she asked me if he was retarded.

    Lastly, your comment Noell about what you and Izzy will be embarrassed about 30 years from now made me think of that word. Retarded. It is not used in the context it was 20 years ago. That was the word we used to describe the kids who were “different”, what we now call Special Needs. It was also used in horribly, derogatory ways in name calling and teasing other children. Today, that word is not allowed in our home. (It is thought of much worse than any 4 letter word). I’m really proud to say that my older son would NEVER use that word as we used to use it.

    Thanks for a great episode. It definitely got me thinking. Now I need to get writing.

  • Rosa

    hi, great episode, well how could it not be with Stacy and Shimelle!

    anyway, just wanted to share an infographic called best social media moments of 2012, it certainly refreshed my memory: things like Kony and Gangnam style! and I think it’s a great idea for things to add to a year-in-review page (this also kind of applies to the episode with Debbie Hodge about scrapbooking social media – two birds with one stone)

  • Rosa M. Neno

    I agree with you!!! I love them too!

  • Gwynn Asbury

    I just wanted to say that I LOVED this episode, it was very inspiring for me to think of ways to incorporate the context of my life into my scrapbooks. Not only the context but also things that my future children will most likely ask me about – Like where I was on 9/11 or what was going on both times their future father deployed, and the like. I also wanted to share something that did not come up which is the Year in Review stuff that many of the well known publishing companies will do – this is a GREAT source for pictures that stole the attention of the world, headlines that stopped the world, etc.

    On a completely different note….. I really appreciated what Shimelle shared about Forums. As someone who has never understood this, it was humbling to have her speak a little bit about the ettiquette and decorum of using forums which are paid for by the profits made from an online retailer. It unfortunately leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth when someone is censored, or someone is not censored when clearly being rude. I agree with Shimelle that many of our sources of scrapbook supplies are closing and just as I would NEVER announce at my LSS that I could get their product cheaper at the Big Box Store down the street, why on earth would that be okay on the internet? Thankyou Shimelle and the other panelists for correcting my possibly offensive and bad manners!

  • Debbie Hodge

    Thanks, Rosa! This is great. I added it to my pinterest board of subjects to scrapbook Sharyn Tormanen is a scrapbooker I’ve learned a lot from when it comes to including details on your pages that capture the times. She’ll do things like be sure to get the cereal box image in a photo or record in her journaling that her child still needed to sit in a car seat until x pounds or record that the bracelets her daughter are wearing are a part of a trend. The journaling is really key!
    Here are her layouts

  • Julie

    Totally felt the same way…repay with paper and pad in hand to take notes on all the ideas that were given and I want to try and do.

  • Marilyn Sibblies

    Hiya – I was so interested in Stitch Fix that I reached out to Natalie Parker for her referral link. If anyone else is as interested in trying it as I am, here it is along with her gracious response. ? Thank you, Natalie!
    Hi Marilyn!

    Thanks for listening to the PRT episode! I hope you enjoyed it.

    Sure thing re the referral link! Here it is:

    You can, of course, sign up without the referral link. I do have a theory though that the wait time to get in may be shorter if you are referred versus signing up without a referral. I’m not sure what the wait times are, but it’s necessary for them to make sure they aren’t sacrificing the quality of service. If I can offer a tip – it works a lot better if you can show them a Pinterest board that has some direction about what you want. I had pinned a bunch of stuff and then told them that I wanted them to send me stuff that was nicer than the stuff I wore already (t-shirts, etc.).

    Have fun! Let me know if you have any questions!


  • Gina

    Just wanted to reply and apologize. I realized as I was listening to this episode that I have done just as you asked people not to – ask about kit clubs on the Two Peas forum. I’ve deleted my posts (although I didn’t get many responses anyway). I guess I viewed it as a scrapbooking forum encouraging people to scrapbook and continue their interest in scrapbooking in general and if people are buying kits, maybe they are likely to shop at Two Peas as well, not instead of. When the Two Peas terms of agreement (I think that’s what it’s called) gets discussed I feel like they miss this part – the stores like Michaels don’t have nearly the quality of product or the current product in stores so when people to discuss them and the deals they got I feel like it actually could help business at times because it is keeping people scrapping,