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  • Lisa

    Hey! 

    You featured my comment which was quite thrilling! 

    Just wanted to thank you for taking my comment in the spirit it was intended. I was in no way criticizing anyone for focussing on design or photos or anything. I am just concerned that sometimes the message coming from “the industry” is all about musts, shoulds, oughts, obligations and guilt which I think is so sad. I DO live in Europe so you might be right that it’s more about the fun over here but that could also tie in with what Nancy was saying about how our attitudes change as we get older. Scrapbooking as a hobby is younger over here than in the US so maybe we are still in the “playing around and getting messy with paper” stage!Once again, love what you do. We wouldn’t tune in every week to listen or subscribe to your videos if we didn’t want to hear about the equipment and design principles which are so an intrinsic part of who you are, Noelle, so keep on doing what you do best. You know that we love you for it :-)And Izzy, thanks for commenting that you liked the way I’d written it. As someone from the UK who works with language, that made me happy!Non-schmo, Lisa

    and Ps. Anna is another awesome guest. Love her laid-back attitude to the whole thing. Can only imagine how much fun it must be to scrap with her. Just thinking of all that glitter makes me happy!

  • http://kissandtellscrapbooking.typepad.com/ Katie Scott

    On the topic of whether your kids will care about your scrapbooks: 

    My experience with this: I recently inadvertently offended / hurt the feeling of each of my kids:  {1. I was talking to my sister about my son and saying oh he’s always on the computer lately…, I was talking while my kids were swimming in the pool and I didn’t think they could even hear me and I wasn’t saying anything offensive but my son made a bee line out of the pool and came over soaking wet and told me not to tell people how he was!  2. Last night after taking my daughter for some retail therapy – something we don’t normally do but she was thrilled about – when we got home we watched the Simpsons and Lisa & Marge were shopping & Lisa didn’t like anything Marge was picking out – and I said – oh that’s just like us at the mall!  }    Maybe my kids are just a bit dramatic, but the thing I noticed both times is that they don’t like for me to make sweeping statements about how they are.  Maybe its an age thing.  I hope so.

    My concern:  My scrapbooks are full of layouts where I make sweeping statements about how they are, what they are like, etc.  I seriously hope that someday they will LIKE them and not be offended by them!   I know I’ve inadvertently offended members of my extended family with scrapbook layouts, not because I wrote anything negative, but because they didn’t like the way they looked in a photo or because I put it on my blog (I’ve stopped that btw).   I betcha I’m not the only one who does this sort of thing.

    Show Topic Idea:  (maybe?)  How not to inadvertently offend people with well meaning scrapbooking.  and/or The effect of your scrapbooking on your own life and that of your family &  friends.   -  Maybe Stephanie Medley Rath would have some insightful things to say about this.

  • http://kissandtellscrapbooking.typepad.com/ Katie Scott

    On School Albums:  I don’t necessarily always want to scrapbook school stuff but I get the desire to scrapbook school in spurts.  I do have some school themed scrapbook supplies and that I keep all together in case I want to use that type of stuff (sort of like how I store Christmas and Halloween separately from everything else). 

    I’ve set up a 12×12 and an 8×11 notebook for each of them in 3 ringed binders.  So the layouts go into the 12×12 and bigger art projects and the certificates etc. go into the notebook along with a few of the 8×11 pages I make related to school.  I make the layouts whenever I feel like and then I put them in the albums, someday I’ll put the albums in chronological order. 

    I also set up a family “school of life” album that includes my husband and my school experiences and also accomplishments  that are maybe more family or work related.  This is sort of like an add on to the Library of Memories system.

    Plus on kid’s artwork that I purge, I take photos and then make shutterfly albums of that type of thing.  The stuff that I save just goes into a page protector and goes into the album.

    I’ve also been known to cut up artwork with punches etc or to use a piece of it on the page – I think Noell had something a while ago where she was showing how she also does this.

  • Katie Scott

    P.S. Izzy – the art work smashbook idea is totally brilliant.  love it.  I’m doing that.  seriously.  

  • Christine Guest

    I actually started scrapbooking because I wanted help in creating my kid’s homeschool portfolios.  As my kids have gotten older, and I’ve had more kids to document, the portfolios have gotten MUCH simpler. 

    The largest things my kids make are the trifold boards for F.I.R.S.T. Lego League, I take them apart and put them into the books.  Otherwise, it’s sort of like a clean up/sort/ and shove into the page protector process.

    But I’m no longer sending portfolios to the district: too many kids.  So I’m writing short narratives and sending in standardized test scores.  The sad thing is, the portfolios are kind of disappearing.

    However, the kids are beginning to draw into moleskine notebooks and collect their own things they like.

    And I did learn to scrapbook.
    Christine

  • Jana_NJ

    Karen is great I loved her, but mostly because she has a down to earth feel about the craft. Sometimes we live in this “bubble” called scrapbooking and we think somethings do matter that much or follow trends matter or that celebrity feel sometimes about the hobby when most of people don’t really know what scrapbooking is or what we do. Most of people that I know never heard about mini album in their lives. But that said I think yes we have to have fun, but some people, like me do “Scrapbook” because want to record things , I want to record for myself, for my family and maybe my son. My mom destroyed most of my father’s  memories once they separated right after that he died. I felt pretty odd and sad with my lack of recording things I wanted to remember . So I now scrapbook to record the new things we have been discovering as new parents of a Autistic child so later I can remember everything he accomplished and we accomplished and fought together. That doesn’t mean i don’t have fun I do have but I’m conscious about what I want to accomplish as for really pure fun I dive myself in zentagles and mixed media. So there is space for everybody.

    As for School my son just started Special needs pre school, it’s a important year for him and for us and so many things change and new hopes are born. I use my project life to put pictures and things that come from School, Project life has 12×12 pockets so I have one for his crafts of course I don’t save every single one but things like mother’s day cards, or something that shows he accomplished something that  is really hard for him. (like finger painting). I use 8.5 x 11 pockets inside project life to storage letters and sometimes the daily log the teacher sends home.  These logs have what he did at School in detail and notes from the teacher. I’m very fortunate the teacher has a iphone and sends from time to time pictures to my iPhone I told her I was a scrapbooker and it was important to document this important step in his life and she is very gracious to send pictures sometimes and say: This is for his scrapbook :) Probably next year Project life will have a school version that is the rumor, but for now totally works with all the pockets and dividers it has . By the way  I also sometimes take pictures of crafts and put there. And for mothers of Autistic children that don’t speak or do not express themselves with words I would say ask teachers and therapist what they notice, what their kids  liked or something special during the day. My son doesn’t speak but I can say pretty much what excites him and I have asked teachers before, a example  his Physical therapist sent me a email once telling me that she saw him in music class at School and he was so happy and touching the teachers guitar and having a blast and she would like to share that with me. So that goes to his Project Life me telling “for him” how music if a big part in his life and he loves music class at school. Anyway Great Show !

  • Amanda

    I don’t have kids…but, I do wish my Mom had saved a little bit more of my stuff. I like the idea of the boxes of stuff even.
    Also, Bekcy Higgins did a great video on this topic (which I enjoyed even though I don’t have kids, I just love the organization of albums concept). Check out the “Getting Organized with Kids’ Stuff” on http://www.beckyhiggins.com/videos/  It might be helpful.
    Also, Stacy Julian features “School of Life” albums in her Finding Photo Freedom class which will run again in 2013, I believe, on bigpictureclasses.com

  • Iceteeeeee

    So interesting, as always. I laugh right along with you and always have the best time listening! I, too, wish I had more childhood memorabilia. I only have few pieces (I was one of six kids and the middle child to boot!). Thank you for all you do. Love you guys so much.

  • http://www.scrapworthylives.com Stephanie Medley-Rath

    Still listening but wanted to share what I do with my 3-year-old’s art. I save some items and they are in a lovely pile that I intend to sort through this summer. The stuff I don’t want to save I put in file folders for each relative (aunts, uncles, grandparents, and great-grandparents). Most of our family lives out of state so my daughter is not regularly making anything for them. I send the artwork off once or twice a year and the relative can do with it what they want. If they want to keep something, fine. If they toss it all, fine. 

    For the most part, I keep the art that my daughter is excited about. If she tells me about the art or is especially proud of it, then I keep it. I also keep any artwork that includes her handprints or footprints. How will I organize it? Most likely it will end up in a box. I think I’ve scrapbooked one or two of her pieces of art–mainly if there is some sort of story that goes along with it that I want to record. 

  • TracyBzz

    I’m not sure what makes you think this is a family friendly show? In the beginning there was 70s porn music. Izzy and/or Noell usually make some kind of “suggestive” comment. LOL! Love your show! Oh and this week there was Ana’s stalker obession. Flat Jeremy – oh my!

    My girls’ grade 1, 2, 3 teachers seemed to only send home stuff about twice a year, a grocery bag full. I’d go through it and save some stuff. Then at the end of the year I gather what I’ve saved and weed through it even more. Saving about 4-8 pieces of art, tests, whatever. My mom had a cool school days folder book. About an 8×12 size and the front she’d put a school portrait and there was room for all the signature, age, date, teacher, friends kinds of info then the top of the page was open and our report cards and a few pieces of art are in there. It really is enough. I have no desire to see 500 colouring sheets/drawings that I did during my preschool years. I agree with Noell that I’ve never thought “why didn’t my mom save more stuff”. I found the same kind of book for my daughters, except it’s smaller. The folder limits you to what you can keep and it’s enough for me.

    I think you need some kind of limit. A box or file folder and you can’t save anymore stuff than that so if it’s full something has to go. 

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    I wish I had sent some of the kids’ artwork off to the grandparents or aunts/uncles. Never thought of that and it’s such a great idea — thanks for sharing!

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    These are interesting thoughts. I am one of those people who does not like to be generalized about (unless I’ve declared the generalization first and continue to believe that generalization — such as this one I’m currently typing about myself). I didn’t grow out of it, so your kids may not either. When people make a generalization about me I see the nuances that contradict the generalization and I don’t want anyone to box me into a “type,” especially when I feel it’s not completely accurate. I don’t get insulted or offended by people but I do get riled up inside when someone makes a generalization about me because I it’s like they’ve put a box around me and I have to smash that box.
    Katie, you’ve brought up something similar to this as a topic idea before, and someone else has requested a topic that is different but related. I’ll see what I can do about it.

  • Tracieclaiborne

    Not to prolong a never-ending discussion, but personally, putting an emphasis on getting my stories told in a well-designed manner has brought MORE fun to this hobby for me. When I look at a completed layout that accomplished the goal of preserving a memory with a meaningful story and I love everything about the design – I am GIDDY. It’s one of the best feelings in the world to slide the layout into a page protector and know I am happy with it. So, as Noell said, fun is different for different people. I recently tried art journaling after seeing so many others enjoy it and strangely enough, it was not fun for me. I couldn’t let myself relax and just play when there are so many wonderful stories to be told. I’d rather spend my creative time being productive. Being productive makes me happy in all areas of my life. That’s just part of my personality. Every night, I silently review all the things I accomplished that day and I feel more peaceful knowing the day was worth something. So yes, it should be fun but fun, just like art, is subjective. Love your show!

  • Jenoscrap

    I just discovered your show and love it. So much information. I never thought that I could get so much out of an audio show for scrapbooking.

    I have been keeping my kids artwork for years. I have a box for each one and add a few items to it every year. I don’t keep a separate scrapbook for just school memories. I do make several layouts however for each year that are just all about school. It has been fun seeing my kids grow, and see how my scrapbooking skills have grown too.

    This show is amazing and I can’t wait to go through and listen to every episode.

    PS Anna is so funny. I visited her blog and she is really gaga over this guy. It makes me want to go out and watch the movie. I hope that she will really make the diarama I would die to see it. I follow her boards on pinterest and it was a little akward when I logged in and my screen was full of Jeremy Renner pins Anna put up. My hubby just smiled when I said they weren’t mine. (although I did repin a few)

    I wish I had more of Anna’s creative spirit. I love how free and easy she is with everything. She must be so much fun to know.

    I do have one question Noel. Do you all ever get to see each other? Have you ever met Anna in person or any of the other guests?I’m new to the show so maybe it will be obvious. Ok this is long. Thanks. 

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Welcome to Paperclipping! Izzy and I had a good laugh at your Pinterest experience following Ana, lol!
    We do get to see each other! Once a year we go to the Craft & Hobby Trade Show and we do a recording there from our hotel room. Our core team of regular panelists are invited to be one the episode together: Stacy Julian, Ali Edwards, Ana Cabrera, and Angie Lucas. It’s so much fun!

  • Jana_NJ

    Thanks for that link it was great to see how she organized things

  • MarSibb

    As one battling infertility, when I heard the show topic, I definitely thought I would not be able to listen to the discussion. But I’m glad I did.  I can only hope one day that I will have the dilemmas you all alluded to. But in the meantime, I do have some of my own school memorabilia that I got a few ideas for.

    Thanks you guys.  Even when topics like this are super-challenging for me get through, I still find I get something out of it.

    Best,
    M

  • http://mpcapistran.blogspot.com/ Marie

    Hi everyone!

    First of all, I love the roundtable!! I uploaded all the shows to my iTunes library and listen to them over and over again.

    Second, english is my second language so I long wanted to comment, but didn’t because I didn’t know how to articulate my thoughts, so now I that I do dare comment, I hope I won’t make any mistake and upset someone because of the way I say the things I want to say and I apologize in advance for any thing I will say that would not be rightly formulated. :)

    Ok, I wanted to say something about the topic of scrapbooking school for our kids. My thought is: don’t you think that the kids that are in high school are old enough to gather and keep the things they want to keep themselves? I know for myself that I kept my agendas, some pictures and some favourite school work (I was not a scrapbooker at that point, so I just put that all together in a box) and that was enough. I definitely know that I wouldn’t have like to have my mom sneak into my room and my agenda, searching for ephemeras to scrapbook. I mean, I don’t know if it’s because I have an exceptional memory (maybe I do, I don’t know), but I think we remember our high school time for a long time, long enough to scrapbook it even we start scrapbooking later in our lives, as I did, don’t you think? It’s not like the childhood years were we have no memories at all if we don’t see pictures and if nobody tells us about things that happens. 

    Keep up the great work, I LOVE listening to the show! It’s always really inspiring and it brings me to think differently.
     
    Thank you!!

    Marie from Montreal, Quebec.

  • sm_bradford

    Loved today’s stream of consciousness episode! :) Here’s what I do with school stuff… Throughout the year I have a magazine box for each child. As stuff comes in that I think I might want to save I put it in the box (on our main level near where I file mail, etc). I usually save some pieces of writing, math, reading and art from the beginning of the year and then a few more from the end of the year, as well as assessments that I find interesting and grade cards. Then at the end of the year I go through the pile again and keep at least one piece of writing, math, reading (usually an assessment of some kind or a reading log), and art. Then I have a file box with a hanging file folder for each grade. Into that goes the items I decided to keep along with school and sports portraits from that year (and any certificates the child may have received).

    As for scrapbooking I use School of Life digital templates. Each year I make a title page with a few current favorites listed on it, a highlights page with 3 major events from the year, a life at school spread, and a life at home spread. The final page is a pocket page where I include 3-5 fun pieces of ephemera from the year. I’m currently working on this year’s pages but here’s a link to what I did last year. http://scrapinspired.com/tag/school-of-life/ LOVE that these pages are digital because it’s easy for me to drop in photos and type up some journaling and call it done. I love finding quick and easy ways to document the events of our lives (as I’ve mentioned before by using mini albums and such for birthdays/halloween etc) and then allowing my paper happy creative self to flow with layouts that inspire me. School of Life digital templates are give me that quick and easy…it’s all about balance.

    I have also done the scan/shrink/scrapbook technique Nancy mentioned. But only when I have a fun story to tell. Love the pages that come out of that! Here’s a couple of examples… http://scrapinspired.com/2011/11/lets-ride/ and http://scrapinspired.com/2011/04/ipod-generation/

    Thanks again for a wonderful episode!!

    Monica

  • Vera

    I love having a separate school album for each of my two children!  I am a sporadic scrapper for my family albums, but the school albums are the two albums I actually work on regularly.

    Here’s my system:

         When my kids bring home their work I go through it with them.  Any of the assignments that have drawings or writing, I pull out if it reflects their personality or their life.  For example, my son often draws his pet lizard.  :  )  I put those papers at the bottom of the stairs and the next time I go upstairs, I take those papers upstairs to my craft room and file them into 12×12 memorabilia keepers.  The keepers I have are discontinued, but I saw on Amazon a similar one in the Project Life line of page protectors.  (Anything larger than 12×12 goes into an art portfolio that I bought at Michaels in the art supply department)

          I have three 3-ring binders for each of my children.  I have already put in each binder enough 12×12 keepers to span all of their school years.  So it’s easy to file away their work as it comes in the house.  I keep an average of about 15 items from each school year.  Of course, as they get older, it’s harder to get them to bring their work home.  But, I also keep certificates, band concert programs, etc.  

          For each school year, I scrap one double layout.  Even though I am a photographer, I buy the cheesy school photos every year.  I also scrap photos from the bus stop, first day of school, band/orchestra concerts and awards ceremonies.  I keep a 12×12 storage box with all of my school-themed products and it’s easy to whip up a layout for each of their albums.  

    I normally don’t do ‘theme-y’ layouts, but I do enjoy the school albums.  I think the school-themed products evoke childhood memories for me.  I loved school when I was a kid.  

    I don’t do a lot of journaling on the school layouts.  I am just collecting and documenting.  I don’t know if either of my children will be interested in these albums when they are grown, but I’m glad that I am making them.  Hopefully, they will appreciate them.  It’s a great way to see how they have grown through the annual school photos.

    One more thing:  I sometimes cross-scrap.  For example, I may include my daughter’s band concert photos in both her school albums and the family album.  In the school album, I just document the event, but in the family album, I’ll journal more about her experiences in band and her progress she’s making with her private flute lessons, recitals, etc.  I expand on the journaling more in the family albums.

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    You’re right! That’s a really good point about high school! Wish you’d been on the show to state it, but I’m glad you said it here. Your English was perfectly understandable. :)

  • Rebecca Nelson

    I’m still mulling over if/how to scrapbook school memories for my kids (7, 6) so I thank you for a timely episode. I liked Noell’s webcast of the schoolwork scrapbook tutorial and I’m thinking that may be the direction I go. There are so many great options if I choose to do more “formal” scrapbooks or if I decide to do just a page or two for my family albums.
      I did an 8×8 shutterfly book for my daughter as she was finishing preschool and she still loves looking through it. That’s what keeps me motivated to keep up some sort of documentation of the kids’ school years. However, I love the freedom you all gave when you said it didn’t have to be the same year to year – duh and thanks!! I’ve been stressing because I’m “behind” on doing kinder and 1st grade books for her but just as those years have been different, the scrapbooks can be too. And I’m saving for my son’s counseling as he has no shutterfly books and is beginning to keep tally vs. his sister. (I did some birthday books for her …. while I don’t truly believe it being behind, I do have some saving face I have to do).
      So now a question – what is the best way to photograph artwork? Typically I put it in a sunny spot where I can get a good non-flash photo but I’m wondering if there’s a makeshift studio I could do and then just knock out a stack of paperwork. I’ve considered scanning but it seems to me it would be slower and I don’t necessarily need a high quality image – just a good representation of the work. I also like photographing the work because it doesn’t matter what shape or size it is. Any tips on how to make the process easier/better? If my in-laws weren’t arriving in an hour I’d be holed up in my craft room getting inspired to make school work layouts. I might just do that anyway :)
    Becky
    non-schmo

  • Michelle T.

    I have been a scrapbooker almost as long as I can
    remember and it has always focused around the memorabilia for me.  When I was little I had those huge paper
    albums filled with movie stubs, newspaper clippings and notes, no photos at
    all.  This style still greatly impacts my
    very methodical approach to my son’s school albums.  Let me state,  I do only have one child, so this makes
    keeping this going much easier.  We are a
    military family and had moved 5 times before my son was 10, so keeping the details
    from the early school years was very important to me.  So my approach for his school album (12 x 12)
    is a cover page listing years covered, next each grade starts with his school
    photo and the following info- where we lived at the time, how old he was, name
    of school, grade and his height and weight. 
    I also include a mini interview where I ask him who his friends are,
    what he wants to be when he grows up, favorite color, food, etc.  When he was little, I often had a self portrait
    that he did on the first day and last day of school.  I include writing samples, art work, award certificates
    and report cards. I also list any other extracurricular activities he is doing
    during that particular school year.  I
    often photograph my son with his art work before I throw it away.  I then scrapbook any other events from the school
    year that I have photos of not focusing on using any traditional “school
    themed” product.  In fact all my
    layouts are inspired by the subject matter and I have a lot of fun with
    it.  I then end each grade level with the
    class picture.  Any “stuff”
    that does not fit in the albums are stored in a 12 x 12 plastic iris cases,
    often several years in one case.  One of
    the best things about these albums is you have a snapshot of his development
    and can easily see the changes that happen from year to year. Your show is a
    life saver for me as I work from home manufacturing scrapbook kits.  Listening to you all keeps me
    inspired as my cutter madly works away.  Thanks

  • Alissa W.

    Great episode! Ana always makes me laugh out loud. I was totally excited for this topic because even though my daughters are only 2 years old and 3 months old I can’t wait to do school albums for them ala Stacy J’s School of Life concept. Yes, I am a total nerd. Regarding what someone else said in the comments – I recently dug up the first scrapbooks I made which I did for each year of high school with page protectors and all kinds of fun stuff. Debating about scanning and actually doing “real” scrapbooking but then I remember Stacy saying “it all counts” so I’m leaving them as they are. Another topic suggestion: Izzy mentioned some stuff he read in Creative by Jonah Lehrer, who I am obsessed with like Ana is with Jeremy Renner, (seriously I just read all of his books) and I think it would be cool if the panel would all read the book and then discuss. Or get Jonah Lehrer himself on ! (Izzy needs some male companionship). :) Thanks for another hour of information and laughter! Alissa semi schmo (not a member but regular user of affiliate links).

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Alissa, if you’ve read all of Jonah Lehrer’s books then I think Izzy and I would enjoy having dinner with you some time! We’d have lots of interesting stuff to talk about. :)
    I think this is a great topic suggestion. Stacy would be great on a subject like this. And I’m wondering if Ali’s read this book.

  • http://www.scrapjanny.blogspot.com/ Jeanette

    This episode was one of my favorites.  While listening to Tami’s comments, with my headphones on, I found myself actually yelling out loud:  ”Yes!  Yes!”  My husband, who was sitting in the same room, wondered what on Earth I could be doing :) .  So I re-played it for him.  She echoed our feelings about what is happening in our schools.  We live in New York City, and we are so disheartened and frustrated with the constant emphasis on standardized tests and teaching for the tests, that we decided to place our daughter, who is 12, in private school.  (We love the school, by the way, and it’s the best thing we ever did for her.  We had done the same thing for our son, 17 now, who is on the Autistic spectrum.) 

     It is so important for creativity to be encouraged and nurtured, especially in our children.  They learn so much by just having fun, and the constant stress and pressure to “do well on the tests” becomes overwhelming and makes school a necessary evil, rather than what it should be:  a part of our children’s lives that helps them to learn about themselves and their world; grow into responsible, caring adults; and become life-long learners.  When they are adults, not many people will care what their scores were on their third grade standardized tests.  What they will notice, however, is how they treat others and whether or not they are happy. 

     I like having fun with my scrapbooking.  That’s not to say that I don’t enjoy learning new techniques and principles.  I enjoy that too.  That’s what is so wonderful about this hobby.  There is something for everyone, and guilt or feelings of inadequacy have no place here.  I’m looking forward to another thought-provoking, lively conversation on The Roundtable.  

  • http://twitter.com/SparrowApril April

    I’ve paused in listening to the podcast to come & comment about scrapbooking school.
    I’m the mother of a (13 year old) special needs child. My child ins’t much involved in other social groups or other group activities outside of school. Our extracurricular activities are physical therapy, speech therapy, and occupational therapy. I think this makes me more interested in what is happening at school because I know that it is about the only place where my son is socially engaging with his peers.  School is also an area where he really excels, and I feel I should celebrate it in some way. I think that who he is as a student is an important part of his self, identity.I find myself in much the same situation as Nancy.I don’t really know how to scrapbook about school, because it’s a part of his life I’m locked out of. I’m involved in long dull (important) meetings about his educational needs several times a year… but I don’t get to be involved in the parts that illuminate who he is. I don’t get to see him being the kid that the teachers gush about in those long boring meetings.

  • http://www.smorelabs.com/ Becks

    Hmmm… How come when you talk about school stuff, you don’t find guests that actually do school stuff? Didn’t you guys get flamed in that ‘back to school’ episode? Lol!

    My kid is just a toddler so I don’t care either way. It’s just that I was at Laura Vegas’ blog just now and she did a post on her school album system. Apparently she’s blogged about it before. I saw it and thought, well, wouldn’t she be a perfect guest for this episode? That’s why I came over here to post. She could be a good candidate for school topics.

    But it’s so good to have Ana back! She’s freak’n hilarious! I want to be like her when I grow up!

  • lehubs

    WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN All my life!
    First of all, anyone who thinks scrapbooking is dorky needs to listen to this show. I don’t have any children but I do have lots of nephews. So the tips in the show are great. Mostly I like Ana’s methodology for scrapbooking… eh what ever! Not to say that I think she doesnt take things seriously.. but I like that shes never too serious. I will have to go back and listen to her other shows.

    I also think that I will start some keepsake boxes for school projects too. I love the artwork and think that of all the things they have – that would be fun to see later in life. Or some of the first stories. Can you imagine how cool it would be to have the first elementary writings of Hemingway? Just sayin’ So thanks to Tami for that wonderfully simple idea.

    Noel I do have a question for you. Do you think that 12×12 or 8.5×11 is the best size for school memories? I usually work more with 8.5×11 but maybe thats not bi enough? And do you have any suggestions for products that hold larger items in a scrapbook. Like a cool pouch or something? Also – can you tell Ana to please take some time away from pinning Avengers Men to post her Diarama. I am waiting with baited breath.

    Ana – dont let that fire die. I love that you live life to the fullest. And if stalking Jeremy Renner makes you happy then I say go for it. And I will secretly stalk your pinterest board when my hubby is not looking. Thor is easy on the eyes. Thank you for you passion and laughter. I actually think that more of us should “just go for it” like you said.

    Wonderful show. I look forward to many more!

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Yes, we did get flamed! And I was hyper-aware of the fact that was repeating this time — thought we’d hear it again from the audience, but so far nothing! Thank goodness, and sorry about that. I will make a note that Laura Vegas actually does school stuff!
    You know, I have a tutorial course on school scrapbooks that I used to do a few years back but I felt I had already been talking way too much and wanted to give Tami more time to talk so I didn’t ever bring it up. :)
    Thanks for the guest suggestion!

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    We’ve been here! We’ve been here this whole time! Actually, we’ve been here a couple years, though I’ve been here almost five now…
    :)

    Loved reading your comment! Ana is definitely a have and a nice reminder to chill.
    Most school memorabilia is 8.5×11, so most things will fit perfect in that size, but of course there is the occasional art project that’s massive — 15×15 or bigger. So on those occasions you might wish you had a bigger album, but even then you’re most likely to have to cut it/shrink it down. So if you love 8.5×11, you might be fine keeping it that way. I’ve actually done both. I did my first son’s earliest school pages in 12×12. Then I started making altered schoolwork scrapbooks — books that show off their most interesting work — and those were 8.5×11.
    There are two pictures of them here:

    http://www.paperclipping.com/purchase-the-schoolwork-scrapbook-tutorial-now/

  • Lindsay

     I agree! First off, I thought it was awesome that Izzy knew enough to describe it correctly (my husband doesn”t have a clue what a bind-it-all is!) and certainly doesn’t know that this is a cool new trend in scrapbooking! Way to go Izzy. Second, that would be an awesome technique for displaying some of the art – with or without stuff smashed on top.
    This is why I LOVE this show.

  • MissNiki

    Just finished listening to the podcast and for the first time and feeling a little disappointed in the results. I wish that Stacy Julian could have been a guest on this one to balance out the group. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705385373/Tip-Creating-a-simple-scrapbook-of-your-childs-school-year.html It seems that it was a school album “smashing” session; it kind of came around at the end thanks to Ana. I work hard to keep the kids’ school albums up to date and now I am questioning why I have even bothered. However, I did take from it, that I am on track in choosing the things that reflect who they are. I’m not complaining just suggesting that a more balanced group on a given topic would have left some listeners feeling more positive. Hey, one disappointing show out of 114….not bad!  Keep up the great work…I do love the show and am enjoying my new membership! (how ironic is it that one of the first ones I watched was the Schoolwork Scrapbook tutorial)!  Miss Niki

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Sorry we disappointed you! I noticed the same issue myself and regretted near the end of the show that we didn’t share any concrete ideas. I’ll take partial credit because I failed to pull out my school-related pages before we started the show, which meant I couldn’t think of any of them when we were talking so I didn’t share school stuff I have done. Plus, I felt like I was talking too much in that episode anyway and wanted to hear more of Tami’s ideas.
    Tami’s background is with children and she teaches a lot about scrapbooking with your children, so that is why she was picked for this episode.
    One thing I definitely want to express here is that none of us think there is anything wrong with scrapbooking about school and it I wouldn’t want anyone to be discouraged from scrapbooking about it. It just happened to be that none of us had a regular system we keep up with (though I have LOTS of pages over the years about school).
    I feel bad that you questioned whether you should have made your albums. Remember that what we share is just the way we personally feel for our own scrapbooking. We’re not saying it’s right or wrong for anyone else, it’s just what we ourselves feel we do or don’t want to do. On this show we almost never say you should or shouldn’t do something (except maybe to back up your hard drive!) and if you ever feel that way, just tell yourself that that wasn’t the intent.
    If one of us says we don’t like the idea of doing school albums, we don’t mean that they’re not a good idea. We just mean we don’t feel like doing them and we’re okay with that.
    That said, I agree that it would have been more helpful if we had someone who could have shared actual school albums.

  • Briel

    Like many others, I really enjoyed this episode.  I feel like you all have been getting more complex in your episodes and in your conversations.  This is fun for us listeners.

    Before I go on-Izzy: Wow!  Look at you rocking the scrapbooking ideas!

    One idea that I read once (I don’t have kids myself buy my life is surrounded by kids) was to take a picture once a year with your child and everything they created that year (I picture the child in the middle surrounded by art).  Then, pick three things to keep.  Then, you have the picture with everything and three special things.  Just an idea!

    I do love school albums in a way that I don’t like a lot of other theme albums. I have been working on one as a teacher (20 years in I’m glad that I have names and such documented!). I wish that I had this for my childhood.  Even if it were my class picture and school photo.  That would be amazing. 

    I wrote about my school album (as a teacher) on my blog if you are interested: http://scrappingwindow.blogspot.com/2010/09/school-years-project-post-1.html

    Thanks all!

  • Miss Niki

    I did listen to the podcast again today while I was shopping in Walmart. And did take more ideas from it a second time.  I do think that your group does a great job of coaching us scrappers to do what you do and be happy with it and that there is no right or wrong. I think this one struck a nerve with me today because teens are difficult to scrap due to the emotional roller coaster and documenting their stories is a vey touchy subject!

    No worries!  Just keep doing what you are doing…it challenges me and makes me think about why I do what I do…and that’s a good thing!  Looking forward to the next one!

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Thanks!

  • Vera

    If you decide to do a show about those books, tell us in advance so we can read them, kind of like Oprah’s Book Club! LOL

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Great idea! I already scheduled the episode for June 19th with Ali and Stacy Julian. So now you can start reading! I’ll try to remember to mention it in the episode, too! Thanks for the suggestion!

  • Leslie Williams

    You read my comments two weeks in a row! I’d jump for joy if I weren’t riding a train, filled with stuffy business types, home from work!

    Izzy, “I’ll be jiggered” is just a colloquialism that basically means, “well pinch my toe and call me a jelly donut.”

    It’s actually an old English saying. Or should I say “olde?” No, I’m not English, I just talk funny because it makes people laugh (like you guys) and my opinion of my self-worth is tied to my ability to amuse others. Heh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=627042920 Alissa Ulrich Williams

     Oh I’m so excited to read this! I am going to re-read the book too.
    I can’t wait for this episode!!!!!!!!! I would love to have dinner and discuss Leher’s books. I guess having an episode about Creative is the next best thing!

  • Mel

    I haven’t read all the comments, so this might have been posted already, but I just saw a link on Laura Vegas’ website to a video Becky Higgins did on collecting and organizing kids’ memorabilia and stuff.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JvFjiDcbpXg

  • JEANETTE

    Hi I just wanted to agree with the writer who says she doesn’t see all the negativity in the industry that Nancy mentions quite often eg  the people who say “you should do this and you should do that”.
     I don’t see that at all either in the websites and blogs i visit the only time I hear it is from Nancy!

    I think people who are feeling this pressure are putting it on them selves. I do agree with Nancy’s point that those companies who operate on the party plan model do tend to be strict in that way but in general I would say that Paperclipping tends to stay away from those types of products.

    To Nancy I would also say if you have only done your front cover by May for Project Life then you know it is not for you. Scrapbook in the way you are more comfortable with ..it is not meant to create more pressure for you ..you have so much going on this year as it is !

    On another note I would also like to give a shout out to Izzy – it is so great to have a guys perspective on this hobby – especially one with such a great sense of humour. I love hearing his absolute love and devotion to Noell !
    Thanks again for a great show – love you all (didn’t mean to sound so hard on Nancy !)
    Jeanette in Melbourne Australia

  • Mevelez

    I just want to tell you that I hoard my Paperclipping Roundtable shows to get me through any rough patch going on at any given time in my life. Also, when lacking motivation to get out and run… you make my 5Ks so much sweeter!

    This episode in particular was phenomenal. I love the spirit and kindness you all project… and how you make me laugh! At one point, Izzy made some comment and I just bwahahahahahahahad out loud. Thank you for the belly laughs, most of all.