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PRT075 – I Don’t Drip Either

Do you really know what you like? And what you don’t like?

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  • http://www.BackToPaper.com Linda Tieu

    I just loved the beginning discussion about how we need to know what we like… 

    Talk about the “secret” to happiness. The funny thing is that in the research and science of happiness… it is clear that what people THINK they like…or will make them happy…is often incorrect. Isn’t that crazy!?

    It seems that most of the time, people do not spend enough time learning about themselves…

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Very interesting insight — and I think it makes a lot of sense considering
    all the shiny new things we humans keep acquiring!

  • http://www.BackToPaper.com Linda Tieu

    Makes me think of shopaholics and how they think buying stuff will make them happier in life! Buying pretty patterned paper does make me happy – but there’s a limit…

  • http://profiles.google.com/ruth.bonser Ruth Bonser

    I think that is so true Linda, just because it works for a small scale impact, like buying some new supplies can make you feel briefly happy, does notmean it will scale up, that if you bought some every day you would always be happy. 

    Also it is not hard to go out and buy stuff, but the things that make you happy long term take work, just like it is not hard to glue down a bit of every supply you own onto your page, however it is hard to think and express effective and interesting journalling, but which page is really satisfying afterwards?

  • http://www.BackToPaper.com Linda Tieu

    Great perspective, Ruth!

  • http://alexandraraedesign.blogspot.com/ Alexandra Rae

    I really liked the point that was made about the more we *do* something (like scrapbooking) the more we discover our style, and our style becomes more automatic. I’ve noticed this lately, especially, when I’ve been trying to scrapbook more–I’ve always thought I was a “traditional” paper scrapper more than digital, but the more I scrapbook, the more I’ve realized my tendency to gravitate to digital, which makes sense, since I have a graphic design degree ;-) I’ve become too addicted to the “UNDO” button! 

  • Iceteeeeee

    I know exactly what I like: everything!!! :)

  • http://www.scrapworthylives.com Stephanie Medley-Rath

    Yes! Just began listening and love the discussion from the mail. Yes, women scrapbook for themselves and justify it by saying they scrapbook for their children or for others. I think children and others can be part of it, but from my research, scrapbookers scrapbook for themselves, every other reason is secondary. Every other reason is justification, but rarely the primary reason.

  • http://www.scrapworthylives.com Stephanie Medley-Rath

    Yes! Just began listening and love the discussion from the mail. Yes, women scrapbook for themselves and justify it by saying they scrapbook for their children or for others. I think children and others can be part of it, but from my research, scrapbookers scrapbook for themselves, every other reason is secondary. Every other reason is justification, but rarely the primary reason.

  • Tina White

    I found it incredibly interesting to hear you all say “who made up these rules”.  CK and other mags drove the rules and what we should or should not do.  Now that cult is, SJ, AE, CZ and DD, they are making new rules, saying it is all about story, and you don’t need that perfect shot to have a memory. 

  • http://www.scrapworthylives.com Stephanie Medley-Rath

    Yes, who made the rules: the magazines, manufacturers, local stores, direct sellers under direction of their employer, now prolific bloggers….”there are no rules” supposedly, yet we follow trends and follow the thought leaders.

    You can really see this right now with all the blog posts about topics to scrapbook this summer (I am going to be guilty of this one in a few weeks) or all the “new” ideas for fourth of July layouts. Wow, really, red, white, and blue?!? I would have never thought of that color combo on my own. As I was watching the fireworks, I was thinking that gold, yellow, or orange might be a nice change because most of the fireworks were of those colors and not red, white, or blue.

    And yes, I understand a lot of people attempt to photograph fireworks on the fourth (and need a tutorial on how to do this because it isn’t easy), but honestly, why the focus on photographing the fireworks themselves?  I want a photograph of my daughter’s reaction to the fireworks. I want a photograph of the people I am watching fireworks with. I have photos of fireworks. I don’t really need more.

    This is why people don’t want to scrapbook “one more holiday” because the ideas as to how to do it remain so conventional that it becomes stale and boring to scrapbook “one more holiday.”

    Alright…enough of me ranting…great show, btw.

  • Sharon

    I loved listening to the show about knowing what we like. I know, like others, that I too can not start with a piece of patterned paper. I always start with plain colored card stock. What I don’t know is how to identify what my style is. I listen to you talk about “artsy”, “shabby chic”, “vintage”. etc. but I can’t seem be put mine in a category. Maybe you could have each of your guest state what their style is and then I could go to their websites and compare my style to theirs. Not being able to identify my style is driving me crazy.
    Thank you for a great show.
    Sharon

    PS. I would love to hear a show or segment about hosting a crop. I have been hosting crops in my home about every 2 months for about 2 years but would love some new ideas.

  • Karen

    Sharon, i don’t know if this helps but I don’t think my style fits into a category either. And honestly I’ve learned that I don’t care. I cared more when i thought it had to. now i think that if i just stick to what feels right to me, what feels authentic to me, I am good to go. if someone else can’t compartmentalize that into a predefined word, that’s their problem, not mine. i get to make the pages i love, preserve the stories i care about and get to enjoy the process. i truly feel grateful for that even if it means i don’t get to attach a style to my name.

    i think people use those labels cause it makes it easy for other people to visualize a certain look and feel and i think most people don’t fall cleanly into one category or another. 

    i also think not being able to put a label on your style isn’t as important as knowing what you like/what makes you happy and just sticking to what feels right for you consistently. just my opinion, of course.

  • Sharon

    Thanks Karen. What you said is so true. I guess it really doesn’t matter as long as I love what I’m doing. I host crops every couple of months and always try to make at least one trip around the room before the end of each party. It is so amazing how different we all scrap but they are all beautiful. When looking at the others work, I am always saying “wow, I would never have thought of doing it that way”. It is great!

    Happy Scrappin

    Thank you,
    Sharon

  • Karen

    but to be fair, this is true of almost all industries, magazines tell us what fashion is in style, what colors are popular for your house, how you should arrange your furniture, what sort of food to cook, etc etc. They also tell us what music to listen to or what books to read. There is an entire job sector based on people telling other people what to do. their job is to come up with “rules,” trends, whatever. 

    this doesn’t mean we have to listen. it doesn’t mean they are right or wrong. it just means they get paid to write/tell their opinions. they do it for a long time and end up more experienced than the average person because it’s their full-time job. they dedicate time to it. 

    however, there are many people who don’t listen to these people. and i must admit that when i first started scrapping, i didn’t know about any of the people you mention. i didn’t know the rules. then i joined online communities, learned some things, went through my own evolution and saw the multiple sectors and finally settled when i found my place. 

    think of it as fashion. there are people who prefer jeans and a white tshirt and ones who wear long, flowy skirts, and ones with miniskirts. There are magazines, looks, and brand names for each of these looks. none are more “right” than the other. but some feel more “right for you” and I think the trick is finding that. finding what feels comfortable. 

    there will always be people telling others what to do. but that doesn’t mean they are making the rules. all they are doing is stating their opinions. they are given a bigger platform and audience than the rest of us, but it doesn’t make them a better fit for you. maybe in scrapbooking we’re missing the wide variety of “brand names” that fashion has. So everyone only sees Calvin Klein and thinks we have to look like that.  but that’s not really Calvin Klein’s fault. It’s really cause there isn’t a wide-range of magazines to serve everyone’s style.

    the nice thing about the internet is that it gives each person a platform. it gives you the opportunity to find the scrappers/styles that feel more authentic to you. Before, if you wanted to see examples of a style that CK didn’t represent, that would have been super-hard. Now, that’s not the case as much. We can find our own inspiration and join with other people who have the same rules we do. i find that to be one of the greatest aspects of online communities. if you’re not a “story” person, there are many others who just like to play with product, etc. 

    wow, i didn’t mean to rant. i was just trying to say, “there will always be people whose job it is to define the next big thing. but that doesn’t make it a rule. and it certainly does not mean you have to agree with them or listen to them.” i just said it much less concisely.

    and of course this is just my opinion :)

  • http://www.scrapworthylives.com Stephanie Medley-Rath

    I agree to some extent that we should should view some of this as we would fashion magazines, but the key difference with scrapbooking is that this industry actively, regularly, and publicly solicits from regular people (for sketches, layouts, to be on design teams, so on). When Creating Keepsakes got started, most of the published layouts were labeled with the name and hometown of the person who created the layout. You knew the layouts were from regular people who were most likely not working in the industry or as a designer in any way. Today, those lines have blurred. The line between what comes from regular people and what comes from people working in the industry is not clear at all.
    When I read Vogue or Elle or some other fashion magazine, there is no assumption by the reader or implied by the magazine that the people featured in the magazine are regular people. It is assumed and implied that these people work in the fashion industry. Don’t get me wrong, the lines in fashion magazines are blurry in this way, too. I used to read Bust magazine and they have this feature where they photograph someone on the street and the person gives them a break down of where all their clothing items came from. It is presented almost as if the editors literally were just walking down the streets of NYC and found this person. Well, awhile back Elsie Flanagin was featured and it was like duh!, of course these aren’t just random people on the street. These are people who are working within that industry in some way, but they are often being presented as just a random person who just happen to be really stylish in line with the magazine’s style. 

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    I think I read once that women (maybe men too?) get a little adrenaline rush
    when we buy stuff. It becomes the easy go-to way to get a happy fix. But
    it’s like a drug — short lived. It’s just easier and more instantaneous
    than the real lasting stuff that helps with true happiness — think
    healthful eating, exercise, creating, giving focused attention to our
    children, spouses, etc.

  • http://www.BackToPaper.com Linda Tieu

    let’s say hook drugs :)

  • Tina White

    I often thought of the fashion world in comparison to scrapbooking and how the magazines influence as well.  However, I let that example not follow through on the scrapbooking industry for several reasons.
    1. there are way more magazine competitors in the fashion world, due to the size of industry, 2. world wide influences fashion and in scrapbooking the industry is driven by American companies. 3. and lastly, clothes are a necessity to life, you can buy clothes at the dollar store all the way up to couture. The food industry would be a strong comparison to CK than Vogue.
     
    Karen, don’t apologize for your opinion.  I love the fact that paperclipping offers a forum for discussion.

  • http://www.scrapworthylives.com Stephanie Medley-Rath

    Ooh…good comparison. I agree, the food industry is probably a closer parallel. With food magazines and shows, the goal is often to give instruction that anyone can follow. It is more realistic for the reader to feel like these are things they can do in their own life. 

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    Even though I was on the show I’ve actually always thought the fashion
    comparison is incorrect but for other reasons (and I think yours are right,
    too!) –

    Clothing is usually modeled on women who are practically near starving, and
    there is much doctoring going on to make it fit in a way that you could
    never do in real life. On top of that you’ve got all the photoshopping that
    happens to make the entire thing 100% impossible to duplicate in real life.
    We can’t even come close no matter how good we are.

    On the other hand, even technically difficult scrapbooking layouts are
    easily duplicate-able. It’s more like home decorating than fashion.

  • Jessy Tramontana

    Right on Stephanie!!!  That was my exact focus this year.  My significant other loves to try and get the actual fireworks themselves.  Which is actually true of his entire photography style.  He likes to get the “landmark” photos.  Meanwhile, I’m busy taking photos of my family’s faces and reactions to those landmarks.  That landmark will still be there when I look up from the lens.  We went to the Grand Canyon last year and I sprinted ahead of everyone so I could videotape my kid’s faces as they saw it for the first time.  

    I did the same with fireworks this year.  I was trying very hard to get their faces.  Not easy at all because it was so dark.  I did get some awesome outlines of them as the fireworks were going off.  Including one of my 3 year old daughter pointing up at them.  That is my most treasured photo of the 4th this year.

    In my case I know my DH is getting photos with our DSLR that are going to be fantastic and I’m scrambling to get the photos of us with my iphone.  We just might need 2 DSLR’s!

    I’m really enjoying trying to capture these “real time” images though of people and I do wish there was a class offered on how best to do that!

  • http://www.scrapworthylives.com Stephanie Medley-Rath

    This year, I did attempt to take some photos of fireworks, but not for my scrapbooks. I wanted the practice. I am attempting to take more manual photos with my DSLR. My favorite photos this year and from a couple of years ago on the fourth are of my daughter right before it gets dark. The sky is the perfect color and she is in some stage of enjoyment (this year) or sleep (a couple of years ago). The fireworks are always there, but the story of her watching the fireworks or sleeping through the fireworks–that changes–that’s the story I want to hold onto.

  • http://www.paperclipping.com Noell

    I never do 4th of July layouts but I finally did one last year because it was extra special. In AZ it’s been illegal to light fireworks of any kind, including sparklers. You’re only allowed to go watch the fireworks shows. Last year we went to Missouri and shot our own for the very first time at my sister’s rural home. Instead of using red, white and blue, I choose mostly green because we were surrounded by green brush and that’s what our holiday felt like.

    I actually wondered when I posted it to my blog if anyone would think if I’m an unpatriotic person, lol. It’s paranoid for sure, but it says something about the pervasive idea that we use red, white, and blue for 4th layouts!
    BTW — your wish for a class on real time images — I have an article that shows examples of the types of photos I choose from my summer vacation pictures. While the article focuses on what to look for when choosing photos, it’s also a list of what to look for when taking photos. Here’s a link.

    http://www.paperclipping.com/how-to-choose-your-best-vacation-photos/

    I also have an episode in the membership on summer time photography. If I remember right it has three tips for shooting photos during those bright days.

    If you’re a member, just look for episode 112: Summertime Photography Tips.

  • Jennifer Serrano

    Hi,
    I have been a scrapper for 10 years and I have done chronologic scrapping the whole time. As I look through my albums my very favorite LO’s are the ones that are very heavily story based, and my kids seem to love those the best also. The begining of this year I decided to try to scrap differently and not do it in chronologic order. I was actually (gasp!, gasp!) caught up with my scrapping (mostly due to doing Becky Higgins project life in real time for 2010, then finishing off a traditional 2009 album in between using project life). Anyway, I am at a total loss where to start, I just sit at my scrap table and stare off into space. I guess I use my photos as my starting point. I was and still am taking photos but I just feel stuck… I know that Noell has said she used to scrap chronologicly and maybe Nancy did too? How do you make the switch? How did your process change? Did you just take pictures and come up with stories? I feel so lost… So mid Feburary I had nothing to scrap and decided to do another project life album, which is cool, but I really want my scrapbooks to have lots of meaningfull stories and connections. I know Noell has said she uses the library of memories system, what kind of system does Nancy and other guests use? Maybe this could be the topic of a whole show, chronologic vs other scrapping?
    Thanks,
    Love Love Love your podcast and websites!