PRT 013 – Taking It Beyond the Page

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  • tortagialla

    Thanks for another lovely discussion!0 I really enjoy listening in and I do think there is good diversity amongst the panel. I finally got the budget to get my Paperclipping membership – yay! Have to control my spending, but Paperclipping has been on my list for a while…so I'm super excited to go through all the videos!

    However, I wanted to say that I really appreciate all the free stuff offered as well. A big thanks to all for contributing to the scrapbooking community, whether we can afford membership or not…buy fancy products or not…all the inspiration and ideas out there really helps to push us all forward as a community exploring together. Okay, enough gushing :)

    About this show, interesting what Julie said about art journaling and how it's hard to share sometimes. I find some pages too personal for me to share as well, but I think it's okay NOT to share as well.

    For a future episode, wondering if you would discuss what we could scrapbook about sans kids. I suppose that just means for everyone, meaning other topics of interest and inspiration for all?

  • amandasusan

    I would love to hear an episode that talks about the majority of scrapbookers. A majority of scrapbookers do feel behind. They don't care about the latest products. They don't journal. They don't do mini-albums or decor items. When I go to crops the majority of people there probably couldn't tell you the different between Making Memories and Memory Makers. I think the people in the industry sometimes forget that most scrapbookers don't want to see their pages in print, probably don't even realize they can be published. They just want to take their pictures and put them into albums.
    I would also like to second what Amanda K said in her question from the last episode. I work a full time job that has nothing to do with scrapbooking and isn't really creative. Most nights when I get home I have no desire to scrapbook. The difference between me and people who work in the industry is that sometimes they have to scrapbook for their job. I've gone months without creating something because I had no time. I would love to hear from a normal scrapbooker, someone that doesn't earn a paycheck because of scrapbooking, that works outside the industry but still finds way to work in scrapbooking throughout their week.

  • toni2

    Loved the lifebook project you mentioned. All four of my children have lifebooks as they were all adopted through the state (would love to share more about the books, but they're intensely personal). I know this gifting of excess or unused supplies will really bless the foster and adoptive families who assist the children in creating their lifebooks. GREAT challenge.

  • tortagialla

    Interesting perspective…I guess there should be a show for those who scrapbook literally to get all those photos into albums…like the crops mentioned sometimes are very focused on getting pages done.

  • tortagialla

    I just thought of an interesting topic for a future show, which is making minibooks or similar items meant to be gifts…how the panel approaches a project in that manner, especially if you don't necessarily want to create something that is your normal style, given that it is a gift for someone else. Thanks!

  • May

    I really loved Claudine & Julie on this episode I'd love to hear from both of them more!! What I really love about paperclipping roundtable is that you guys aren't judgemental and you don't tell people how they should scrapbook.
    It makes me sad when I hear people who think that it matters if you have kids or don't, people who think it matters if you know about brands or not… none of that matters! It's all scrapbooking and if you're having a good time it's ALL good.
    I love that you guys get that, and you aren't pushing your agendas on us, the listening audience. All types and views ar respected.

  • For scrapbookers of Dubai: What about ScrapFest at Archiver's in the Mall of America (Minneapolis, MN)? It is a weekend event (Sept 17-19, 2010) with classes, crops, and shopping. I have never been but would love to if it ever worked out to be in the area that weekend.

    I also wanted to chime in on what I think is meant by “everyday” scrapbookers in some of the comments you are getting. Since the roundtable started around CHA and the initial episodes had a lot of coverage of what is coming up at CHA and what was seen at CHA, I wonder if these comments are defining everyday scrapbookers as “scrapbookers who are not eligible to attend CHA” and industry insiders as “anyone who has attended or is eligible to attend CHA because they have designed products, taught classes, or covered it for a blog/website/magazine”. That might explain why your panel members consider themselves as everyday scrapbookers (because they buy their own products, try to make time to do it, and wrestle with designs and products) but they aren't if you apply the CHA criteria. Just a thought.

  • I think the panel could use “an everyday scrapbooker”, who I would define as someone who hasn't been scrapping for more than 5 years like a lot of us. As was touched on in the discussion this week, lots of scrapbookers evolve in different ways and even in different directions. And that's all good. This is especially true of those of us who are involved on the internet and those in the industry. The more you are exposed to what is “out there” for scrapbooking, the more you are influenced by it – generally speaking. That's why Izzy often asks the pertinent question when he hasn't heard about an item. When we have all been doing this awhile, we tend to all know a lot of the same things. Even so, I think you are doing a fantastic job of changing up the subjects each week.

  • Diane365

    I agree that many scrapbookers don't have time to devote to their craft. I know my group of friends and I sometimes go months without getting together for a crop. Then we stare at the page for an hour with no ideas. What I love about those big weekend crops is that I am surrounded by people who have ideas and that helps me get creative. That's why I completely disagree on this idea that the roundtable is somehow ignoring scrapbookers like us. What I love about the roundtable is that it is filled with industry people. I like hearing from people who are different than I am, whose style, approach and “art” are what I wish mine could be. These ladies inspire me to get back into my craft. I love the product pics, and industry news. My life is filled with obligations. I appreciate the inspiration.

  • Diane365

    Another great show. I so enjoyed the guests this week. I went on line to visit their blogs and see their work. What fun. I love all the perspectives and inspiration on this show. Quite frankly I just love having people talk about scrapbooking for an hour. I tend to be pretty alone in my passion for this hobby around here. People think I'm a bit eccentric with my “cute hobby” They get that condescending look on their face whenever I talk about it. Most of the women I started cropping with have either moved away, or moved on to other hobbies. That's why the on-line community and forums like this are so important to me. Thanks for doing this! I look forward to you all each and every week.

  • mshanhun

    I'm an average scrapbooker I think! I've done 3 pages of my honeymoon album (in 3yrs!) and the only other scrapping thing I've finished is my 21st album (7years ago!) and a lot of cards.

    I wasn't happy with never having time to scrap and I am now a digiscrapper because I couldn't afford to spend heaps of money on scrapping, and with a young baby I can't leave out my supplies. However once or twice a year I do host a crop/craft day at our place to get some more done on my paper album.

    I think this show is fantastic and by it's very nature will have 'pros' on it as we need to have people on the show who have ideas and inspiration. If we had a jaded once a year scrapper on surely it would be quite boring lol! I get heaps of inspiration I've used for both digi and paper ideas from the show. I really enjoy hearing all the practical tips, like how to store your finished artwork, and last week the digi scrapping tip about printing at different sizes.

    Keep it up!

  • Ladydoc

    Diane, I'm so with you on this. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven today when the woman next to me at the nail salon wanted to talk paper crafting. I just do not have many folk locally who are interested. Now, May Flaum is down the road, if you count 40 miles as down the road, and so I'm not totally deprived; but, roundtable really is a high point in my week. I love the discussions. Like May says – MORE of Claudine and Julie. Claudine has a wonderful sense of humor! Her pick of the week is too wonderful! Julie is a very interesting guest. Of course, I'm looking forward to more featured personalities, too! I enjoy our little comments conversations. I'm not at all sure what makes a person less than a regular scrapbooker. I think we are all regular scrapbookers even if folk are designers or artists. We are a diverse group and that's why roundtable is so very interesting! Some of us have more time than others and a few have more money. The designers perhaps have more talent in general but we all enjoy the hobby. One does not have to have more than a willingness to help to get to go to CHA. I go because I volunteer for Scrapbook Royalty. Doesn't give me time to see everything, 'cause there is an element of work involved. Nonetheless, you get a taste of what's happening. Free stuff is not showered on people in this industry. Working for a charity you realize that fast! (Though some companies are overwhelmingly generous for a good cause.) Nice to hear from the designers that they go to M's and J's like the rest of us!
    Now that my disability keeps me from working I get more time to scrap but when working I found time on weekends or late on a Friday night to scrap. I think a lot of folk need to fit it in then. Most everyone, including designers have a lot of other responsibilities in their lives. The important thing I think is to focus on the fun and self expression of the hobby – even if it's wallpapering patterned paper with all your photos. I do enjoy hearing from folk who have unique perspectives on papercrafting and who create amazing things that help me learn or just plain wow me with their talent. I love all the areas you cover on the show and look forward to the next episode. Glad I discovered Paperclipping and all the products you offer (Live, subscrption and roundtable!). Nice to have Izzy and a guy's perspective, makes it even more balanced!

  • Ladydoc, I find that I want to read all of your comments as mail during the
    show, but I can't do that or people will get mad, lol. Thanks for always
    contributing to the discussion! I love reading everybody's comments as much
    as I enjoy having the discussion with our guests.


  • First of all, I can't wait to go out and buy my own ranger heat gun. I never thought it would be useful for anything other than embossing, which I don't know how to do anyway.

    This was another interesting episode and something I had been thinking about lately too. Scrapbooking itself can encompass so many types of art if the scrapbooker is willing and interested in learning. I find that since learning to do digital scrapbooking, I have a lot more time to try new things with my “traditional” pages. (I even hand-sewed on a page the other day.) I am starting to feel like more than just a scrapbooker…I'm an artisto (said with italian accent on the 2nd syllable.)
    Someone, I think it was Julie said that the internet had had a big effect on scrapbookers as they became exposed to new ideas and techniques. So true. I started an egroup for scrapbookers in Japan a few years ago, but found that most people's pages look exactly the same as they did in 1998. I and one other member were the only ones actually trying new things and our pages look amazing (if I do say so myself!). I started to get really frustrated with this group because no matter how much I tried to encourage them, they never seemed interested in making progress. I guess they are satisfied with those circa 1998 pages. Meanwhile, I decided to move on from this group and will be deleting it at the end of the week. Enough of that stress.
    Thank you so much for these podcasts and the paperclipping videos. I joined earlier this week and am excited to see all the videos in due time.

  • I kind of agree with this. I became a “chronological scrapbooker” in 2008 when my daughter turned 1. Up until then, I had done pages about trips, events, and of course every single thing my baby did in her first year. I decided to do chronological because I didn't want my digi photos to just be inside my computer. Sometimes, I feel tied down by this, but I honestly think I would feel worse if I stop.
    When I say chronological, it doesn't mean that I scrap EVERY single photo or every event in our lives. I hear so many people say that they just don't do “chronological scrapbooking” as if it's a bad thing. Is it a bad thing? I would like to hear from others who do it, why they do it, and from people who used to do it but stopped for whatever reason.

  • I understand about your group — you want to spend your time with people
    whose creativity inspires you. I think that's important. Also very
    interesting to me that digital scrapbooking has made you feel like you've
    freed up more time to try new things with traditional! I assume it's because
    you're completing the number of pages that you feel you need to now so
    you're not rushing through them. Cool insight.

  • tortagialla

    Oh I don't think it's a bad thing…everyone should feel free to do what they want to do! I think it was mentioned that scrapbooking means something different for each person…so it's okay that it serves a different purpose for each person, per project…etc… great suggestion on getting this different perspective! :)

  • I'll share why scrapbooking chronologically feels “bad” for me (not saying
    it's bad in general). To make sure we're on the same page: chronological to
    me means that even if you decide you're not going to scrapbook certain
    photos, you won't scrapbook the photos that are really inspiring you if
    there are other photos waiting to be scrapped that you took before the ones
    you're most excited about. For example, I have Christmas photos and I have
    January photos. I intend on scrapbooking Christmas. But I am feeling
    inspired to scrapbook a picture I took at the end of January. If I scrapbook
    chronologically then I must scrapbook Christmas first, even if I'm not
    feeling all that inspired yet.

    So here's why I no longer do that:

    1) I want to always be scrapbooking the pictures I'm just dying to get to
    b/c that is when I am most inspired. That's how I enjoy it the most and
    that's how I'll get layouts I love.

    2) I will never have time to scrapbook even half my photos. Probably not
    even one quarter of them (and I do a LOT of scrapbooking). Why bind myself
    to do them in order? I may never get to the ones I most want to do.

    3) There are many stories that are so much more meaningful to me that don't
    fit in with chronology. Many, many of my pages are of stories that did not
    show up in my chronological photos. For example, over the years I've noticed
    a pattern in the way my son needs to find out how everything is made, how
    things works, and how to make his own things that work.This need to figure
    things out also drove him to decide at only 4 years old that Santa must
    really be mom. But he didn't want us to actually confirm his deduction. Over
    the years he wanted to continue to hunt for evidence that he was right. This
    story does not show up at all in my chronological set of pictures. For me,
    chronology is a distraction from some of my richest stories.

  • Ladydoc

    Noell, I did try for your “regular scrapbooker” contributor spot, lol! I do not have any problem with something to say! I love this hobby and all the great folks that I have made friends because of it.
    Genealogy is a great hobby too but much more frustrating (DH calls that hobby “talking to dead people”). Of course, the majority of living folk I meet at that are relatives, lol!
    Waiting anxiously for this weeks release of roundtable. Also, hope folk will make lots of comments. Really like to read what other listeners have to say.

  • crazymathchic

    Hey, guys, I love your show!! It's great to listen to while driving or doing dishes or whatever, and it inspires me to scrapbook later when I find the time. I enjoyed listening to what types of “off the page” things people are doing with their photos. In my life, I want to make my photos accessible to my kids, so I like to make them into slideshows using imovie and idvd. Of course, the sheer number of pictures we end up with (plus the video footage) makes this process seem overwhelming at times. I was also interested in what Izzy said about “motion scrapbooking,” and wondered if you can give us any more information on that. I had noticed that the new imovie seems more geared to that type of project, but all I have ever done with home movies is record it all in one big long (boring) video. I would love to make some “micro documentaries”, but I guess I just don't know where to start!

  • 12345go

    Anyone played with la Photo Cabine? I have, but haven't figured out how to print the photo strip. Can anyone help me out?

  • Ladydoc

    Just hit the print buton. It is the little print out photo labelled “imprimer” (to print)

  • 12345go

    Thanks. I did figure it out, finally. For some reason my screen wasn't able to scroll down to view the print button on the bottom. Tried again the next day and it worked.

  • ladywing

    Art journalling and collage have really been done for a while by not by the “masses” as much as now because it has extended from scrapbooking. Artists have used art journalling for years and to some degree it has been a requirement in the educational process for them. Unless you've been involved in an arts program, it's unlikely you would have done either though until the exploration as an extension of scrapbooking.

    I've always viewed my scrapbooking that I've done as “preservation” starting around the mid 1990's (vs. the scrapbooking I had done in the 1970's) as mixed media art. To me, it's been an extension of my art and art background. Before that I really did not see it that way, but more as keeping of scraps of stuff (yep, literally) such as photos,ticket stubs etc. How funny that now I have to “find” or make some of these as embellishments!

  • andypandyw

    Are you aware that there is a Gorillapod app for iPhone? I have it – and it really does work! I don't know how they do it! I have taken the same photo with the Gorillapod app and then with the regular phone camera – and there is a difference. The photo taken with the app is noticeably clearer and sharper. It impressed me!

  • Never heard of that! Thanks for sharing. We'll have to check it out.

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