PRT 012 – Heart on Fire, Brain on Ice

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  • scrappyJedi

    You guys have no idea how many miles you've all run with me! I was so pleased to see this posted tonight right before I went to the gym. The only time I allow myself to listen to the Roundtable podcasts is when I'm running my 5K workouts, and it's great motivation. I also watch the tutorial videos on my iPhone while on the elliptical (I'm a subscriber) and have been known to watch the live show on UStream's iPhone app at the gym as well (but I promise I'm not stalking you, Noell!! :) ). I listened to the first 40 minutes of the show tonight, and my brain was spinning the entire time!

    I wanted to chime in on the magazine discussion. Just as a reference point, I'm a subscriber to Creating Keepsakes, Scrapbook Trends digital edition, Scrapbooks, Etc., and also a member of Club CK.

    – I believe it was Nancy who was unsure of what the format of the ST digital edition is- it's a Flash application (which means that it won't port to the iPad at all). I wish they would make it available in PDF, but no amount of maniacal waiving of my magic fairy wand has made that happen yet.
    – Stacy mentioned recycling content for Club CK, and that's partly true- the back issues that they make available digitally (through Issuu) are recycled, BUT the Tips and Tricks magazine is all new content, at least from what I've seen in the first issue (which I thought was great).
    – I love Izzy's idea for taking CK totally online, BUT I would still like to be able to download the magazine content in some sort of a traditional format. Web sites with varied content are great, but there's just something about the nice, linear formatting of a magazine that appeals to me. I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to make an online edition of the magazine available. Scrapbook Trends already does it, as does Scrapbooks, Etc (they publish online through Coverleaf, where you can view online or download a PDF).
    – Steph's comment about wanting to read content on her iPhone is also a great point. Another digital magazine company- Zinio- has managed the transition from magazine to iPhone nicely. The reader app is free, and you can read any magazine on it that you subscribe to through their service.

    Which brings me to another point- format, format, format. Every single one of the digital options I just mentioned is in a different format- flash, PDF, or proprietary (Issuu and Zinio). Some of them work on some platforms, and some don't. I think until formatting is more formalized (as it is for digital music with just a couple of main formats), digital publishing is going to continue to be a very disparate entity with readers having to open one application to read one title and then a totally different application for another. Some of it requires that they be online to read it, others work well offline. There's no standardization, which makes it frustrating sometimes even for a techy geek like me. I can't imagine how frustrating it is for non technical people.

    Anyway, I love the show and just wanted to give my 2 cents worth (though I think that might have been closer to five. :) )

  • Ohmarggie

    I'm making this comment as I listen and wanted to chime in to the magazine discussion. I have been seriously considering taking my subscription dollars away from hard copy scrapbook magazines and put them towards online scrapbook magazines. I have recently become aware of a few online magazines that I never knew existed. The online magazines seem to have more content. I love my hard copy magazines but as they reduce their content and the online magazines increase theirs, it is becoming increasingly tempting to follow the online trend.

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  • Another great episode as usual. But I too must chime in on the magazine discussion. I think we need to be careful of taking CK to task. They are just adjusting to the current reality. It is not only happening in the magazine industry but the same cycle has progressed even further in the newspaper industry. I used to be the controller for the local newspaper and had the sometimes unhappy responsibility of keeping an eye on the checkbook. I know its tough to be on the editorial side and be hamstrung with not enough resources to do your job the way you want, but it's also tough to be out there selling the advertising or to have the financial responsibility to make sure the money is in the bank to cover the payroll checks for the editorial staff, advertising staff, circulation staff, production staff, accounting staff, and others. It's an even unhappier task to analyze if another round of layoffs will provide enough time and financial leeway to adjust the business model to meet the newest conditions. We all could do a better job of seeing the situation from more than our own viewpoint.

    The real problem is that the financial working model for print publications is going away before the financial working model for online publications has fully developed. I don't know of any print publications that have made that transition in a hugely successful way. Hopefully, it is only a matter of time. There is a hesitancy by a lot of the public to pay for online content that may be hard for all entries in the medium to overcome. Many sites start out offering free content in the hope of proving their value, and then have difficulty imposing profitable price levels. Hopefully, we are all conscious about supporting the content we value online or in print. At any rate, certainly, these are interesting times.

  • Susanne, you are right. There is definitely a belief among a large chunk of
    people that ALL online information and content should be free. It doesn't
    make sense to me but it's there.

  • I admit I have not followed any of the online magazines. I don't even know
    what's out there, but I'm wondering if they don't have to pay their

  • Well, no wonder I've lost weight. ;)

    The issue with different formats — if the iPad takes off, we may see a
    streamlining of formats very soon. We need a leader and Apple is pretty good
    at it.

    I would like to find out for sure if you're right about Tips and Tricks. It
    concerns me that they might be generating new content for that while
    shorting their current subscribers.

  • scrappyJedi

    I just flipped through the first Tips and Tricks again (it's also available online for paid members of Club CK), and it's definitely all new content.

    I think that Tips and Tricks is meant to cover the gap left when CK stopped making all their “special issues” that used to come out several times a year (you know, the $14.99 issues, though T&T costs much less than that). But it's still much smaller than those issues were (the current one is 100 pages, though it has very few ads and most of those are for other CK publications), so I think what we're seeing is not shorting content for the regular subscribers to make T&T, but instead cutbacks across the board. CK magazine itself is now smaller and has fewer issues, and the special publications section of their marketing has been scaled back as well and has become Tips & Tricks.

  • Okay, I can see what you're saying. So they're not robbing Peter to pay
    Paul. It's that both Peter and Paul, who already worked for CK, are making
    less now. My little cliche analogy might be confusing to everyone else but
    it's making sense to me, lol.

  • tortagialla

    I agree that CK is just trying to work with the industry changes, where so many magazines are shutting down…at least they are still going! I think there has to be give and take from both sides…if we still want print magazines, we need to buy them of course. The publishers will need to give us the content that we want as well.

    I guess there isn't a dialogue between the two groups and we don't know yet what will happen to print, how it's going to change because so much is available online. What used to be only available in print, is now online a click away and oftentimes free. Perhaps the content has to change in print form…offer something you can't get online.

    Also, although there are magazines moving to digital publication, I admit that I still really like the printed form…it's a different experience from online. Just as I still like reading novels in paperback…not digitally. Maybe I'm just going against the inevitable…sad!

  • papersquirrel

    Wow! Thank you for offering ideas & opinions about scraping for my event vs. family vs. each child.

    What was my solution for my “hypothetical” (hehe) vacation project? I made a digital book on Shutterfly. We got home from the trip on a Saturday, and by Monday on my lunch hour I added it to the cart – done! It looked so good and was so easy it scared me – I dodged the guilt bullet! Well almost. I had made the small 5×7 paperback sized book and because of the extra pages it cost me around $ 30. That’s when it got me: do I make 3 more copies? – that’s over $90.00 (! ) After listening to your show, I no longer feel compelled to make each child a copy – whew. What I am going to do is reprint the book at the larger size – 8.5 x 11. I am also going to check out photo organizing software like Lightroom and such so I can tag the meaningful photos from the trip so I can use them somehow in the future.

  • papersquirrel

    On another (sort of provocative) note: Regarding the future of scrapbooking.
    Listening to Stacy speak about her kids and photos/technology, I had a revelation. The emo vacation child I wrote about is now 17, bought a Cannon Rebel camera and a Netbook (from money she saved). Why do I bring this up? The past several years I have been after her to select some photos so they can be printed. I’d say, “Don’t you want to do something with them?” She couldn’t be bothered. She takes her camera to school or over a friend’s house and takes about 50 odd pictures at a time. She uploads them to her Netbook picks out a few and posts them on Facebook with some captions. My realization: She has done something with them – this is how she “scrapbooks”. If I had to be honest with myself, my daughter has already scrapbooked her middle school years on MySpace. I am imposing my paradigm of memory keeping on her. I would love to have that captured in some form.

    Which brings me to my point: Immediacy
    The vacation project I previously mentioned – the night we got home she posted pictures on of herself on MySpace. Her posting on a social networking site beat my digital photo album by a week. Hers is the generation of now – real time: tweeting, texting, flip video uploads, etc. If the scrapbook industry is to survive, it needs to harness and inspire this generation to take these little “bits of now” in whatever form they may be, and somehow make a meaningful narrative. It needs to redefine the form (hardcopy and online) of Stacy’s definition of a photo + memory = scrapbooking. I think is on the right track – but something that will allow a repackaging, a re-framing if you will, of all of these photos and posts; something like “slurping” your blog to make a photo book on Blurb. Something…I don’t know.

    This sea change in memory keeping reminds me of a few years back when email started to take hold. What? No more letter writing? No more (snail) mail! But think about your life right now – when was the last time you printed out an email? You take the information and move on. The scrapbook industry or a venture capitalist needs to get behind the Noells ( and Stacys ( and Stephs ( and give them the money and tools to ferry this hobby in a new and relevant direction that will make this generation want to stop and gather their “nows”. Think of how many millions stories could be told (and money made) from all that content on Facebook.

  • Your analogy makes perfect sense to me!

  • michellefromtexas

    Listening to you all discuss CK magazine, Stacy said something that really stuck me-the new owners of CK are having to pay the price of decisions made months and years ago by other people. Wow, that was a new thought. I don't know if they can bail out the ship fast enough to recover. I hope so, because they have done some great and groundbreaking things over the years, but I also know that many of the roles they filled are being filled by other means now. Also, Nancy said the editors and creative staff are trying to create a exciting and inspiring magazine while they have one hand tied behind their back. I know how hard it is for me to do good work while being hampered. so I'm glad Nancy pointed this out.

    scrappyJedi made a very important point-format. I love reading as well as scrapping, and this is a big discussion in that arena as well. There are so many e-readers, that use different formats, some proprietary, that I've kinda been frozen. I would love to have an e-reader, but which one? I think eventually there will be a common format, (I hope!), then they will be as common as cell phones. I think the iPad will be either a solution or a catalyst to getting one.

    I love what papersquirrel said about her daughter and her approach to saving and sharing memories. I hadn't thought of Facebook and MySpace in that light.

    Thank you SO MUCH, Noell and Nancy, for producing these podcasts! They are so informative, and inspiring, and you really make me think about why and how I scrap.

    And Hi, Izzy!

  • Love the show. This episode was another interesting topic. I was a subscriber of Simple Scrapbooks and then was transferred over to CK last summer, much to my chagrin, but I was so excited when I noticed the changes in January's issue – staffing changes as well as content changes. I mean, I can actually read it without gagging … sorry if that is too harsh.
    Online magazines have their place, that is certainly true. I began subscribing to Mothering Magazine's digital version a couple years ago because it was much cheaper and I could get it quicker since I live in Japan. Well, what happened was that I never had time to just sit there and read the magazine on my computer screen. There is no way to print it out, even just articles that I want to read. And, there was so much advertising to sift through before getting to the content. To be honest, I have never actually read even ONE of their digital versions and I did renew this year.
    I hope that CK and other magazines can withstand the current trends and hang in there. Not everything is going to be online (unless it can be printed out by each consumer) because I think many readers would like to actually read it on a paper version. Most people over 25 years old are going to prefer a paper version, I think. Maybe in the future, when current teenagers are in their 30s, things will have progressed to all being online, but not quite yet!
    I have to say that although SS was so great when it existed and it gave us a chance to get to know some up and coming icons in the industry, those “icons” now have moved on and branched out. I think this is great, and it gives new people a chance to develop their own potential “icon-ness”. I mean, CK's staff has almost completely turned over, and we see many new faces in the magazine now, but that is okay with me. I know where to find Ali Edwards, Jessica Sprague, Cathy Zielske, etc….they seem to be doing even better than they were before!
    (Hope this makes sense. I am currently neglecting my children and my dog to write this comment…as is usually the case when it comes to scrapbooking about what a “wonderful” mother I am. Ha ha.)

  • AnyaL

    Creating Keepsakes – that's all people are talking about…

    It has been my favorite magazine for years! If I wanted to look at any LOs or read something online – I can go to twopeasinabucket or any other gallery or I can read my favorite blogs – but it is NOT the same as holding a magazine in your hands! I take it to park with me, to appointments, when I travel, it goes with me on the treadmill… Paper magazine and online magazine are different like traditional and digital scrapbooking. I think there's just that special connection with magazine when you hold it in your hand.

    By the way, I really liked that last issue.

    Love your roundtable episodes! They make my day. (If I had to ask for one thing, it would be – Try to talk less about sad subjects). Thank you!

  • Notice how easy it is for your daughter to pick a few favorite photos from
    her 50 or 150, whereas our generation has the hardest time whittling them

    And you're right. Their generation is used to immediacy in everything. Very
    good observation.

  • Ohmarggie

    I don't know how they work. But I should have also mentioned that I am currently living outside of the US so it is often very difficult for me to get my hands on any type of magazine or any kind of mail for that matter, therefore the online magazines are even more tempting to me. I still find it hard to pay for online content though when there is so much inspiration available online for nothing. Now I look forward to my two visits home a year when I get my pile of shiny mags to lug back with me! Still not sure if I will change where my dollar goes, but I do think about it.

    Thanks for an informative & enjoyable show!

  • tltorrez

    I realize that I’m probably in the minority but I loved Izzy’s idea. Not for CK. I think Stacy’s correct that a paper magazine trying to go online won’t have the right skills and resources to be successful. However, I do think there is an opportunity here for a new company to produce a digital “magazine” in the scrapbooking arena – specifically with the Simple message. As a loyal Simple reader (and there are many of us) I would gladly pay a premium to have that content again in any form. And with an iPhone app or even just formatting to make it easy to read on a mobile device, I think this could really take off. I know a lot of people in our industry object to the idea of going online for this stuff. But there have already been a number of successful forays into the online world, including BPS, Ella and Paperclipping. I actively support all of these companies but none of them quite fills the niche of a magazine. The closest equivalent is the many scrapbooking blogs that I subscribe to in my RSS reader. But even though these blogs are free, it still isn’t enough. I would happily pay to receive professionally-written content, regularly-updated, all in one online location.

    Love the Roundtable. Keep up the great work.

  • This was a great episode! So many gems — I can't do them all justice by writing them here. In fact I am going to listen to this episode again just to make sure I got them all! I have to say that my brain is actually on fire with ideas and connections that I have made through this episode. (I know, I know, I'm supposed to put it on ice. But there was just too much to think about!) What are the memories I want to remember? How can I categorize my photos so that they are grouped by what is important to my family and have a place to “age”? What IS important to my family and how is that reflected in my scrapbooking? Am I deluding myself thinking I will make “the ONE” 12×12 coffee table European vacation scrapbook?

    And to Stacy, there is no way you can talk too much. You had me in tears with the story about taking your mom to Mary Poppins.

    Thank you.

  • papersquirrel, this is an incredible insight. It is true that facebook/myspace/blogs are a tool for scrapbooking, but doesn't fit the “model” of us oldtimers. This, along with Izzy's question about what CK should do and Stacy's comment about how the magazine considered her idea for Big Picture Scrapbooking as half-baked got me thinking…

    Can you do an episode about half-baked ideas? What else is out there that would be a real service to scrapbookers but hasn't had a way to make it out into the light of day yet? Maybe you could run it as a contest. Or maybe just a brainstorming session. But it sounds like your listeners have some ideas for what they want to see and how that could be implemented.

    You could call the episode cookie dough and ooey gooey brownies : )

  • Amanda M.

    Hi, I wanted to suggest that the Roundtable invite some scrappers on the panel who DO NOT have children. I was struck by how much of this last discussion was about kids – scrapping for kids, books for kids, making stuff for kids, even when Stacy described her London album she said, “Mom went to London with her Mom.” I would love to hear the perspective of people who scrapbook who do not have kids: what topics do they scrap about, how do they set up their libraries, what are their goals (future hypothetical generations, a creative outlet, etc.) I like listening to these podcasts, but, have to tell you, it's lacking major diversity. Diversity of perspectives. AND I am really looking forward to the show when you have a “real world” scrapper on who doesn't get products sent to her for free, doesn't do this as her job, etc. An example of a scrapper without kids that I am thinking of is Kelly Purkey….…I am sure there are others, like me. Thanks for opening this up for comments.

  • molly_f

    First, I'm really enjoying your podcast. The format, the informality, the spontaneity – they all combine to make a pleasant, inspiring and informative show. Keep up the good work. I'm sure a sponsor will catch on soon!

    Second, question for Izzy: if I have a 24-70L mm lens already, would it be more practical to purchase the 5D camera body alone instead of with the 24-105mm and save the difference for another L series lens, like a wide angle or an 85mm?

    And I have to say as far as the magazine discussion goes, I was shocked to hear that scrapbook subscribers would send something that could be described as “hate mail” – it doesn't fit my mental picture of that demographic. Was it Nancy who said she experienced that when publishing instructions to convert subscriptions?

    Finally – thinking about Amanda M's comment, it would be interesting to have someone without kids talk about their take on this hobby. Though I think SINKs and DINKs are in the minority in scrapbooking. And I haven't had much trouble converting your discussions to what fits my world. I keep my stories for me – it's a way to understand changes, grow, process and learn about myself. If no one ever reads them, well, I did. And I think Stacy J mentioned something along those lines as well: If all the moms who scrapbook think their kids will want every album – well, maybe so or maybe no. What I wish I had now is less about photos and ephemera and more about my parent's and grandparent's internal dialogues. What did they think as their child took first steps, drove a car, broke a heart? What was their day? What did they think about current events? Those are the stories I find myself drawn to. And the photos I use don't always go with the story. And that's okay.

    Anyway, I always look forward to the next rountable because I get much to think about.

    (SINK or DINK is single/double income no kids ;))

  • Ladydoc

    Another great roundtable. First, love the product pics (and the unpick, too). Oh, how I'd love that camera Izzy. Those buttons are one of my favorite purchases recently. I love the butterflies but JB has a real problem with her supplier with these. I've had to add my own bling or reattach (but I lose those little things!) MLYB has areal winner with that line! less excited with the other two picks but still – very good stuff. This segment has to be one of my fave parts of the show.
    I like the discussions too and enjoy reading the comments.
    One thing I think we are all aware of is that internet content is still in its infancy. What is going to stand the test of time is not yet apparent. I'm familiar with magazines and know how I like to use them. While I stuff magazines in my bag all the time I do not necessarily take my laptop everywhere and my i-phone isn't fast enough for me to use like a magazine. I find all kinds of interesting stuff on the web but am not sure how I use everything yet. Roundtable falls into entertainment and sites like Basic Grey are reference and inspiration. BPS and paperclipping are educational. But, paperclipping live and some of the other u-stream programs are probably mainly entertainment and at that seem to be like pioneer TV – with interactive components. U-tube functions in a lot of ways but I find I use it most for reference “how-to's” when it comes to scrapbooking.
    I was disappointed when Memory Makers closed. Sorry, Nancy, I never did figure out that Scrapbook Trends on-line offer and I had a LOT of issues due from the magazine. I get paper copies of ST already so found some of the idea of duplicate stuff frustrating. I did join Club CK and now see how having on-line content could be helpful. My problem is that I'd like to clear out my magazine clutter but am afraid that even the on-line magazine sites may not survive (so many folk want no ads on their internet content) that I'm reluctant to let them go!! I share Scrappyjedi's frustration with formats!
    I so agree with everyone saying – this is YOUR hobby. Do it your way! Do it for the fun and stories you want to experience now. Do the pages your family enjoys -right now! Do not worry about the future. Maybe it's the result of 7 boys in the family and a DH who agrees with them. They have assurred me that it all gets tossed when I'm gone. I hope not, but, it's probably true – I admire their honesty.

  • jenniferrogers

    Hello, Amanda M, from Johannesburg, South Africa– Oooh, you dangerous lady, you! First trip to my LSS, I was so excited, was grabbing basics, tools, inks etc and loving it, filling a huge basket (being childless by choice does mean more money to spend on your own toys!) and when I approached the owner to ask where the “other” papers were– they were going VERY BIG on pink at the time– she made it very clear that she didn't think I would have anything at all to scrapbook, as opposed to she didn't have any other stuff I might like… BTW the shop closed down early last year. Just saying hello, endorsing your point of view & heading over to check out Kelly Purkey. Love the Roundtable, more power to you all.

  • We are getting some very interesting and insightful ideas on how the scrap industry could move into this new territory, aren't we? It's fascinating.

  • I know what you're saying, Cynthia! I feel some major evolving going on within myself as we have these Roundtable discussions. So awesome. Thanks for sharing your excitement!

  • jennifer — do you mean that the LSS owner didn't think you would have anything to scrapbook because you don't have kids? Seriously?


  • Molly,

    I'm not Izzy (obviously), but if you already have the 24-70L, then I would skip the 24-105. The 24-105 f/4 is much slower than your 24-70 f/2.8. You're already on your way to a great glass collection with the 24-70, so I'd just go with the body alone.

    I actually totally disagreed with Izzy's lens choice (sorry, Izzy!) from the show. I would recommend that someone buying the Mark II 5D buy just the body and then order a 50mm f/1.8 or 1.4 as a first lens. Then save the money and buy the f/2.8 series (starting with the 24-70) as you can afford them.

    All that being said, I feel the need to say that I actually shoot a Nikon D3. :) I've never shot a Canon, but the same principle applies- if you buy the high-end lenses first and skip the slower ones, you should really never have to buy them again (unless something as groundbreaking as autofocus is invented in the future).

  • What you said about being afraid of online magazine sites closing hit home with me. And it made me realize why I like my downloadable magazines so much (even though web sites full of great content are awesome, too). If I can download a file, especially someone as ubiquitous as a PDF, I have something “tangible” that I still own even if the content provider eventually shuts down. If I'm just paying for access to a web site and can't save content, there's nothing there that I actually “own.” And I say “own” in quotes because I realize that I don't actually own the content, just the rights to have a copy of it on my computer for personal use.

    That's one of the things that makes the Paperclipping tutorial membership great- we can download the videos and save them, so that even if we let our subs lapse we still “own” the copies of the videos that we downloaded while we were members.

  • Cyndi

    Previously posted on the Scrapbook Update website: I’ve listened to the Paperclipping Roundtable from the start. I love the concept and enjoy downloading the segments and listening to them on my IPod during my work breaks, when I’m, or unwinding for the night. This last segment (#12) is my fav. I love how you are all peeling back the layers and engaging in discussions in different nooks and crannies of the scrapbooking world. Kudos! I am a Fan! (and a Paperclipping Member)

    As an aside…..I have been on the fence about upgrading my very old and sad point and shoot. Izzy has almost convinced me to do the route of a video camera and then take pictures with the freeze frame option! Bad Bad Izzy :)

  • Cyndi

    I would like to add that I would be very sad to see hardcopy magazines be phased out anytime soon. Not everyone has a laptop or notebook or……….not yet anyways. For now….it's nice to sit back and curl up with a magazine. I went ahead tonight and picked up the latest CK magazine without flipping through the pages to assess the content. Someone on this segment mentioned it had good content (maybe Nancy). I'll take your word and get back to you :)

  • jenniferrogers

    Seriously! I get that a lot, though, sadly mainly it is women who think I am weird– men, starting with my adored late Dad and all the way through to my adored husband (thankfully) don't seem to need to interrogate it. I believe such views say quite a bit about the person holding them and absolutely nothing about me. Anyway thanks so much for replying, Noell– I am addicted to the roundtable as it makes us thirdworlders feel part of the loop, helping us deal with the frustration of the winter CHA stuff still only trickling in… we did get a class with Stacey September 2008 and Tim May 2009, though, so we live in hope! Hello to Izzy (confess I still hear an echo of the 70's porn music when I open the link…) Look me up if you come to the World Cup and we will definitely scrap that!

  • If it makes you feel better, CHA stuff only trickles in out here, too, and I live in a major scrapbook metropolis. It's the nature of CHA. Manufacturers introduce all their stuff, but only a few things from the entire show are actually ready to ship. Some will be ready a month after the show but most aren't ready for a few months.

    And then, what's available to use depends on what the stores choose to order. They can't afford to order all of it. So, yeah, it's hard that we get all hyped up and then we look for it and we wait and we look and we never find what we're so excited about…

  • Of course, it all depends on the person, but Nancy and I both thought it was good content. I didn't like it both times I flipped through, but once I actually sat down to read I thought they did a pretty good job. There was a good balance between how-to's and an emphasis on journaling. My only problem with it is that in the entire magazine only a few of the layouts put the focus on the photos. Most had elements that I thought distracted from the pictures. But that may not be so important to many scrapbookers. ???

  • As I finally get the chancse to sit and listen to RT#12 I have very mixed emotions about the question posed to the panel about how many books to create! I have to agree that making the same layout two and three times would make the process NO FUN for me and I am pretty sure something would be different in each one just to make it a game for those who would see them, to keep it interesting for me! After being in Disney World and a bagillion pictures later, I sat down with my kids and asked them which pictures they wanted to put in their book! Including them in this passtime let's them be creatively expressive also. Then I didn't feel as guilty for being behind, as so are they…HEE HEE HEE. I realize that some would not have the desire to do so, therefore, Stacy's philosophy comes to the front and takes all the CAPITALS POSSIBLE! We do this for ourselves, with the idea that later our posterity will want to cherish it! In the young lady's closet is better than in rental storage. It is where she can pull it out and look at it, right! A friend of mine just lost her mother around the Christmas holiday, and there were many times I wanted to call and ask her if she needed my help in any way, but I knew the answer, “No I am doing fine, and I will let you know!” Respecting that was difficult for me, but as I did so, a customer had come into the shop, asking for help in puting together memoirs of her father, as she knew he would be gone soon. Each person embarks on this journey for different reasons… but it all adds up to cherishing something that is gone and we want to a reminder, of what we learned from that person or experience. I finally asked my friend just recently if she wanted me to compile her mother's photos in a book, and she asked that I set time aside to help her daughter do it because she has always wanted to try scrapbooking and hasn't yet! As far as Izzy's idea goes with video and such, haven't they already tried supplementing as Nancy says by providing the CK Media videos. I know I receive every now and then a dvd from their Scrapbook Essentials Video collection. $24.95 should I want to keep it, and 30 days to view before I return it if I do not want to keep it! Anyone else out there get these?

  • Debbie S.

    Awesome episode!!!!!!! Wonderful discussion, especially Stacy’s thoughts on “aging” the photos. I agree that the celebrations of our family members’ personalities, quirks, likes, dislikes, etc. are so needed by them. How amazing to let them know that they are seen, and loved, for what they are. And how cool for them to be able to draw connections from their adults lives back through their childhoods and ancestry. Stacy, you are great at articulating that…your thoughtful contributions enrich my scrapbooking! Thank you! I love you in these discussions!

    Which are GREAT, by the way, Noell and Izzy. I missed a lot of these episodes last year when my mom was ill, and I am just listened to many of these early shows for the first time. And let me say, I cannot imagine wanting these shows to be SHORTER. Huh??? They are so inspirational to me and feed me so much. Thank you for doing them! And by the way, they are getting better and better! LOVE them.

  • Thank you!